DVD-Audio??
01-19-2005, 10:57 PM
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Anyone had a chance to play with this technology yet?
I believe Panasonic had a deck out last year that was compatible and now the new Alpine F-#1 head is as well.... Any others?
The quality of recording on DVD-Audio is said to hold up to 7 times the info than that on a regular CD, so HUGE gains in SQ are available, potentially, if the rest of the equipment is up to it. Talk amongst yourselves...
[ January 20, 2005, 01:12 AM: Message edited by: islandphile ]
I believe Panasonic had a deck out last year that was compatible and now the new Alpine F-#1 head is as well.... Any others?
The quality of recording on DVD-Audio is said to hold up to 7 times the info than that on a regular CD, so HUGE gains in SQ are available, potentially, if the rest of the equipment is up to it. Talk amongst yourselves...
[ January 20, 2005, 01:12 AM: Message edited by: islandphile ]
01-20-2005, 12:10 AM
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Here is a primer:
DVD Audio: The Total Music Experience
Q. What is DVD-Audio?
A. DVD-Audio is an extension of the highly popular DVD format, distinguished by its capability for delivering a new standard of quality previously unavailable in packaged audio media. A highly compelling feature of DVD-Audio is its multichannel audio capability, which is proving to be optimal in an automotive environment. DVD-Audio also includes a host of value-added multimedia features not previously available on compact disc.
Q. What is the physical size of a DVD-Audio disc?
A. The standard size is 120 mm, the same width as a compact disc or DVD-Video disc. As with compact discs, 3 inch (80 mm) DVD-Audio discs can be used. The 80 mm disc format is perfect for artist singles or audio samplers, either for sale or as promotional items. Every DVD-Audio player has the capability to load and play either disc.
Q. Why DVD-Audio? What’s wrong with offering just compact disc playback in my vehicles?
A. DVD is the future of packaged entertainment media, and consumers recognize DVD as being hip, new, and sexy. Several automotive manufacturers are now incorporating video playback and GPS navigation features based upon the DVD platform. DVD-based game platforms (for passengers in the rear seats) will soon follow. DVD is the fastest growing, most rapidly adopted consumer electronics format ever introduced. Since its inception in 1997, more than 200 million DVD-Video players have been sold globally. In the United States alone, there are presently more than 57 million DVD-Video-equipped households.
Just as compact discs replaced vinyl records; DVD-Audio is the natural successor to the compact disc. More importantly, DVD—in all of its various incarnations—presents the automotive manufacturer new opportunities to distinguish and provide added value for its products. With the option of implementation in conjunction with related Dolby® technologies such as Dolby Digital and Dolby Pro Logic? II, DVD-Audio is sure to generate consumer interest.
Q. Does DVD-Audio differ in quality from compact disc?
A. The answer is yes, and very dramatically. With DVD-Audio, we now have an opportunity to deliver content to the consumer that, during playback, is bit-for-bit identical to the studio master tapes. Every nuance of the artist’s original performance is captured and reproduced with a warmth and natural timbre not available from compact disc technology.
Q. Most people are satisfied with their CD collections. Why should I adopt DVD-Audio playback for the sake of a few audiophiles?
A. DVD-Audio offers features that a compact disc simply cannot provide, the most important being 5.1-channel audio playback. Multichannel DVD-Audio is the future of packaged audio media because it can uniquely reproduce all of the nuances and musicianship of a studio session. During multichannel DVD-Audio playback, instrumentation and vocals are clear, distinct, and defined. You can actually hear and identify each instrument in the performance! Multichannel DVD-Audio also allows you to reproduce all of the ambience and dimension of a live recording just as it happened.
Multichannel DVD-Audio literally reinvents music that we have been familiar with for decades; listening to an album remastered for DVD-Audio is like experiencing the recording all over again for the first time! The musicianship of the original performance is fully reproduced in its entirety.
In addition to the multichannel program material, the majority of DVD-Audio discs include an Advanced Resolution® two-channel (stereo) version of the material.
Q. So, what is the benefit of DVD-Audio in the car?
A. The first comment many people have after listening to DVD-Audio in their home is “I can’t wait to get this into my car!” The physical properties of a car are ideally suited for a multichannel audio experience: an enclosed area where listeners can be surrounded by their favorite music and experience it in a manner never before available.
Today’s four-speaker systems destroy the essence of the stereo signal and can make it difficult for the listener to localize, or even identify, more subtle musical elements within a song. With DVD-Audio, you have five discrete channels of audio directed at listeners. Its performance is enveloping, highly realistic, more natural, and of significantly higher quality than a traditional CD.
DVD Audio: The Total Music Experience
Q. What is DVD-Audio?
A. DVD-Audio is an extension of the highly popular DVD format, distinguished by its capability for delivering a new standard of quality previously unavailable in packaged audio media. A highly compelling feature of DVD-Audio is its multichannel audio capability, which is proving to be optimal in an automotive environment. DVD-Audio also includes a host of value-added multimedia features not previously available on compact disc.
Q. What is the physical size of a DVD-Audio disc?
A. The standard size is 120 mm, the same width as a compact disc or DVD-Video disc. As with compact discs, 3 inch (80 mm) DVD-Audio discs can be used. The 80 mm disc format is perfect for artist singles or audio samplers, either for sale or as promotional items. Every DVD-Audio player has the capability to load and play either disc.
Q. Why DVD-Audio? What’s wrong with offering just compact disc playback in my vehicles?
A. DVD is the future of packaged entertainment media, and consumers recognize DVD as being hip, new, and sexy. Several automotive manufacturers are now incorporating video playback and GPS navigation features based upon the DVD platform. DVD-based game platforms (for passengers in the rear seats) will soon follow. DVD is the fastest growing, most rapidly adopted consumer electronics format ever introduced. Since its inception in 1997, more than 200 million DVD-Video players have been sold globally. In the United States alone, there are presently more than 57 million DVD-Video-equipped households.
Just as compact discs replaced vinyl records; DVD-Audio is the natural successor to the compact disc. More importantly, DVD—in all of its various incarnations—presents the automotive manufacturer new opportunities to distinguish and provide added value for its products. With the option of implementation in conjunction with related Dolby® technologies such as Dolby Digital and Dolby Pro Logic? II, DVD-Audio is sure to generate consumer interest.
Q. Does DVD-Audio differ in quality from compact disc?
A. The answer is yes, and very dramatically. With DVD-Audio, we now have an opportunity to deliver content to the consumer that, during playback, is bit-for-bit identical to the studio master tapes. Every nuance of the artist’s original performance is captured and reproduced with a warmth and natural timbre not available from compact disc technology.
Q. Most people are satisfied with their CD collections. Why should I adopt DVD-Audio playback for the sake of a few audiophiles?
A. DVD-Audio offers features that a compact disc simply cannot provide, the most important being 5.1-channel audio playback. Multichannel DVD-Audio is the future of packaged audio media because it can uniquely reproduce all of the nuances and musicianship of a studio session. During multichannel DVD-Audio playback, instrumentation and vocals are clear, distinct, and defined. You can actually hear and identify each instrument in the performance! Multichannel DVD-Audio also allows you to reproduce all of the ambience and dimension of a live recording just as it happened.
Multichannel DVD-Audio literally reinvents music that we have been familiar with for decades; listening to an album remastered for DVD-Audio is like experiencing the recording all over again for the first time! The musicianship of the original performance is fully reproduced in its entirety.
In addition to the multichannel program material, the majority of DVD-Audio discs include an Advanced Resolution® two-channel (stereo) version of the material.
Q. So, what is the benefit of DVD-Audio in the car?
A. The first comment many people have after listening to DVD-Audio in their home is “I can’t wait to get this into my car!” The physical properties of a car are ideally suited for a multichannel audio experience: an enclosed area where listeners can be surrounded by their favorite music and experience it in a manner never before available.
Today’s four-speaker systems destroy the essence of the stereo signal and can make it difficult for the listener to localize, or even identify, more subtle musical elements within a song. With DVD-Audio, you have five discrete channels of audio directed at listeners. Its performance is enveloping, highly realistic, more natural, and of significantly higher quality than a traditional CD.
01-20-2005, 12:25 AM
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And another:
http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/question487.htm
As you can see CD technology didn't do as good a job as vinyl in reproducing the original sound, truly and faithfully. Now that DVD-Audio is here thats about to change.
http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/question487.htm
As you can see CD technology didn't do as good a job as vinyl in reproducing the original sound, truly and faithfully. Now that DVD-Audio is here thats about to change.
01-20-2005, 03:42 AM
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DVD-A and SACD are quite good, they have more information than CDs.
BEWARE there is a new format coming it will be essentially a universal disk (DVD on one side and CD on the other. This sounds like great news...BUT the SQ of the CD is LESS than current CDs
and it will be thicker than current CD's or DVD's so it will probably jam in your current DVD or CD players
BEWARE there is a new format coming it will be essentially a universal disk (DVD on one side and CD on the other. This sounds like great news...BUT the SQ of the CD is LESS than current CDs
and it will be thicker than current CD's or DVD's so it will probably jam in your current DVD or CD players
01-20-2005, 04:35 PM
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I'm pretty sure my 6600dvd isn't dvd-a audio compatible.
If that's the case, it's pretty ****ty for us who have dvd players in our cars, but these new discs aren't compatible.
[ January 20, 2005, 06:32 PM: Message edited by: JohnnyToronto ]
If that's the case, it's pretty ****ty for us who have dvd players in our cars, but these new discs aren't compatible.
[ January 20, 2005, 06:32 PM: Message edited by: JohnnyToronto ]
01-20-2005, 07:06 PM
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I think it needs either the processor or the external d/a converter but I'm not absolutely sure.... the connections are propriatary if I remember correctly.
Now weather you could just hook up anything to the deck I'm not sure but to me it seemed there was no D/A converter included, I think you need the processor (or 2!) or the external D/A converter box just to get rca outs.
I'm sure the quality is awesome but Alpine sure keeps coming up with stuff that makes even their last year's equipment non-compatible ...which I resent due to the cost... I mean isn't the the guy who spent thousands on his PXA-H900 processor less than 6 months ago worthy enough of a customer to be able to hook up the new F-#1 DVD-A head unit to his 6 month old processor... Noooo...now he's got to buy a whole new processor /or D/A converter just to be able to play DVD-Audio...I think it's total craaaap that they wouldn't design the head to work with the PXA-H900 but they didn't...If I had bought one of them PXA-H900's I'd consider it something akin to mooning [img]graemlins/2xblown.gif[/img] or a slap in the face of the valued customer....It's Really the only thing that bugs me about Alpine...Ok Rant [img]graemlins/blah.gif[/img] Over!
Now weather you could just hook up anything to the deck I'm not sure but to me it seemed there was no D/A converter included, I think you need the processor (or 2!) or the external D/A converter box just to get rca outs.
I'm sure the quality is awesome but Alpine sure keeps coming up with stuff that makes even their last year's equipment non-compatible ...which I resent due to the cost... I mean isn't the the guy who spent thousands on his PXA-H900 processor less than 6 months ago worthy enough of a customer to be able to hook up the new F-#1 DVD-A head unit to his 6 month old processor... Noooo...now he's got to buy a whole new processor /or D/A converter just to be able to play DVD-Audio...I think it's total craaaap that they wouldn't design the head to work with the PXA-H900 but they didn't...If I had bought one of them PXA-H900's I'd consider it something akin to mooning [img]graemlins/2xblown.gif[/img] or a slap in the face of the valued customer....It's Really the only thing that bugs me about Alpine...Ok Rant [img]graemlins/blah.gif[/img] Over!
