HU effect
03-24-2004, 12:32 PM
#11
50 Watt CAFz'r
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 113
Originally posted by George:
George thinks that if someone can hear the difference between a $300 dollar Alpine and Panasonic or Sony, or Pioneer, or Kenwood then they are part of a small truely gifted yet strange group of people George would like to call the PSI factor people.
George thinks that if someone can hear the difference between a $300 dollar Alpine and Panasonic or Sony, or Pioneer, or Kenwood then they are part of a small truely gifted yet strange group of people George would like to call the PSI factor people.
03-24-2004, 12:40 PM
#12
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Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 113
Originally posted by mao:
george is probably dead on...i guess at that point it boils down to features, aesthetics, and reliability
george is probably dead on...i guess at that point it boils down to features, aesthetics, and reliability
03-24-2004, 12:51 PM
#13
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Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 206
1996 I used a Sony 5070 CD player as CA&E mag said it had great SQ.
That year I competed IASCA noice SQ. and was getting beat by 10-15 points in Sq all year.
I changed speakers, processing, amps everything but the deck.
I finally changed to an Eclipse 5302 a month before finals. I immediatly noticed a HUGH differance. with no tuning. Infact myself and Arlindo at Audio Illusions kept switching decks to make sure we were really hearing the differance and we were.
So did the judges I smoked the guys that used to beat me in sound by 17 points.
I noticed the differance alot. Infact I bought another 5302 (found new off an old competitor)for my Impala.
What we did noticed was more detail, more ambiance, and alot more depth in the sound stage.
That year I competed IASCA noice SQ. and was getting beat by 10-15 points in Sq all year.
I changed speakers, processing, amps everything but the deck.
I finally changed to an Eclipse 5302 a month before finals. I immediatly noticed a HUGH differance. with no tuning. Infact myself and Arlindo at Audio Illusions kept switching decks to make sure we were really hearing the differance and we were.
So did the judges I smoked the guys that used to beat me in sound by 17 points.
I noticed the differance alot. Infact I bought another 5302 (found new off an old competitor)for my Impala.
What we did noticed was more detail, more ambiance, and alot more depth in the sound stage.
03-24-2004, 03:59 PM
#17
Yankee
Join Date: Nov 2001
Posts: 385
I will give my most recent example. I ran a clarion 835mp for a few months. It sounded very nice on some material, but there were some cds that had sounded great before in my car(with an eclipse cd8051) that no longer sounded as nice. I had used an in dash eq with my 8051 so I thought maybe if I put an eq back in, that might help(even though the system had been set pretty much flat). No matter how much tweaking I or 1 of the local shop owners did, it only got so good. The guys at the shop said we could try it, but they said I should just pop an eclipse back in the dash. We swapped out the 835mp for an eclipse cd8053, and it sounded much nicer, set flat, than the clarion did with tweaking. I noticed it immediately. I am not talking about the deck sounding louder(since it had higher voltage pre outs, and we had not readjusted gains yet), but it sounded so much smoother. CDS that really did not sound great with the clarion sounded much nicer.
Call it what you want, but I know what I heard. I really wanted the clarion to make me happy(it had sirius controls in it which was something I wanted), but it just does not sound as good as the eclipse which is in my car now.
[ March 24, 2004, 05:07 PM: Message edited by: PerryB ]
Call it what you want, but I know what I heard. I really wanted the clarion to make me happy(it had sirius controls in it which was something I wanted), but it just does not sound as good as the eclipse which is in my car now.
[ March 24, 2004, 05:07 PM: Message edited by: PerryB ]
03-24-2004, 04:28 PM
#18
Yankee
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 3,599
With the reasonably priced decks, the purchase price is justified by the features, and the fact it is a reasonably decent sounding product. Move up the price scale and you get even more features (maybe TA or an onboard EQ) and upgraded preamp, somewhere around here onboard amps disappear, as we continue up the price ladder we see a divergence, decks with no features (other than very good sound) and decks with premiere features (and very good sound). Pick your poison girls.
I think a top notch HU is the first step in an accurate sounding system. Getting all the information from a CD/ tuner can only be done from this part, all the EQing available downstream in the signal path can not bring you closer to the truth on that shiny silver disk.
I think a top notch HU is the first step in an accurate sounding system. Getting all the information from a CD/ tuner can only be done from this part, all the EQing available downstream in the signal path can not bring you closer to the truth on that shiny silver disk.
