MTT

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LOL...I have no idea on your perception of loud enough....they would be plenty loud for me.

df.dima

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don't forget to seal up your doors with deadener for better midbass response. if you have large holes, cut out sheet metal and screw it down, for smaller holes a deadener will do fine.
it should get loud given good amount of power.
also don't just slap in the speakers onto a sheet metal of your door, try cutting out some kind of baffle, so it stiffens the door a bit. you may loose quite a bit of output if the doors aren't solid. most doors are really *****, unless its old school car with doors metal thick as a finger lol...

preluder92

then from the reviews ive read and from this thread i think im gonna go with the pro60s for the door, and go tomorrow and look for decks, im kinda leaning towards the DEH-P800PRS from premier, good quality sound?..i know this is what my friend has in his s10

df.dima

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MTT will share about the Pioneer, he used to have 880, which is a prev gen, 800 is newer. I think he liked 9887 better for whatever reasons. I've only seen 880 once during our listening session.
The advantage of the deck is it has internal processing, so if you get components and use the passive crossovers that come with it and you can't get the results you want, you can always try using processing on the deck, it will be more flexible.

as far as good sound quality, at the level of these decks, I wouldn't worry too much about it, because your speakers and installation are so much more affecting, than the deck.

preluder92

alright thanks, so say im going with that deck and the pro60s, and a 12" sub havent really taken a look at them, what size of amp would i need

df.dima

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amp for comps or sub?
depends on your budget . you haven't mentioned how much are you willing to spend.
if you want loud music, get as much power as you can, ie big 4ch amp for components, something rated 100x4 will be good if you can pull it off. even if you have more power than your components need, you can back off on the gain on the amp and you will still have headroom on the amp, so it will never run out of breath.

sub amp is a separate issue, you'd need to pick a driver and see how much it needs. for sane loud music listening, 500-600w amp will do probably fine, assuming your sub can handle that. if you listen to hip-hop 90% of the time or all the time, get a 1kw amp and a sub, port it and it will be pretty loud.

if you don't mind buying used, we have a good classified section, you can surely pick up some good amps there from time to time.

preluder92

im 90% classic rock and new rock, only time i listen to hip hop is when someone else is in the car that likes it i can stand almost any kinda music, i was kinda hoping that it would be a set up that would sound good with any kinda of music, i have 1200 coming to my saturday from a friend of mine..i dont have a problem spending all of that and then see where im at after that, and no i dont mind buying used aslong as its perfect condition or near perfect

df.dima

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See what the prices are in the store. Won't get you too much for 1200.
try to get as much in the classifieds, like two amps for comps and sub(s).
I know some people around here , don't like buying used speakers and there is a good reason for that. Amps I think are ok.

preluder92

i have the money for new speakers im not saying that, i'll definately look int he classifieds for amps, so im looking for a 4 channel amp that says 100x4?..does say 800watt or 1000watt mean much to me for the components?

df.dima

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don't look for 800w whatever rating. most of the time it is a max or peak rating which is meaningless and just a marketing gimmick.
you need to find specs to RMS, usually it should state something like
4x100@4ohm rms

and is usually posted in manuals on manufacturers website.


another good thing that might work for you is a 5ch. like memphis big belle would be just perfect. it has enough power on sub channel and I think 4x75 for front speakers. i don't know how much it is retail, but its floating around on the net. one amp will simplify the install for you.