Phaze-Audio vs. Butler Tubeamp
11-16-2005, 01:37 PM
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^ Cost you about $8 on Ebay 
All true but the Butler/Phase/TDBlue amps all have solid state outputs. Not sure on the Planet Audio how 'much' of it is a tube amp..
on the other hand you might want to read up on tube amps... high output impedance can and will color the sound... that could be percived as 'better' by someone who wants that inferior 'tube' sound... also a tube amp's clip behaviour is vastly different then that of a solid state amp.... (yes in a perfect world this wouldn't be an issue but for the other %95 of us our amps do clip) Hard clipping a tube amp is percieved by many as sounding not bad or even good...
11-16-2005, 09:13 PM
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8 bucks hey............... hum that not a bad price. let me see if my wife will advance me the money!!!!!!!!! NOT!
11-17-2005, 08:42 AM
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Originally posted by Dukk:
the Butler/Phase/TDBlue amps all have solid state outputs. Not sure on the Planet Audio how 'much' of it is a tube amp..
the Butler/Phase/TDBlue amps all have solid state outputs. Not sure on the Planet Audio how 'much' of it is a tube amp..
[ November 17, 2005, 10:21 AM: Message edited by: Haunz ]
11-17-2005, 11:38 AM
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I find the sense of timing to be better with the older Tube Drivers. On orchestral work they seem to convey the feeling that the entire group is playing as one, yet each instrument is distinct. The newer ones seem to blur the time domain ever so slightly. They don't convey a sense of rhythm like the older ones.
How's that Dave? Will that hold you over till Joe posts? [img]graemlins/thumb.gif[/img]
How's that Dave? Will that hold you over till Joe posts? [img]graemlins/thumb.gif[/img]
11-17-2005, 02:05 PM
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^ It sounds like your RCA ends are not aligned. Rotate them so the labels read the same way [img]graemlins/thumb.gif[/img]
11-17-2005, 03:16 PM
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Originally posted by DWVW:
I find the sense of timing to be better with the older Tube Drivers. On orchestral work they seem to convey the feeling that the entire group is playing as one, yet each instrument is distinct. The newer ones seem to blur the time domain ever so slightly. They don't convey a sense of rhythm like the older ones.
How's that Dave? Will that hold you over till Joe posts? [img]graemlins/thumb.gif[/img]
I find the sense of timing to be better with the older Tube Drivers. On orchestral work they seem to convey the feeling that the entire group is playing as one, yet each instrument is distinct. The newer ones seem to blur the time domain ever so slightly. They don't convey a sense of rhythm like the older ones.
How's that Dave? Will that hold you over till Joe posts? [img]graemlins/thumb.gif[/img]
11-17-2005, 03:41 PM
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Originally posted by goalie 35:
ya well my kumho tires go 60 miles and hour faster than your b.f. goodrich can go 60 miles an hr!!! please people stop asking what amp sounds better! most respectablewill tell you they all sound the same before clipping,its the sales reps and sales people that started this whole {amp sounding better}thing. look for the power you want and a respectable name. if i hear one more "which amp is better, my lear jet or my sherwood" i think i will be nice to my wife for a day! think people think befor asking dumb questions. phew glad i got that off my chest.. now anyone know what speaker cable sounds the best?
ya well my kumho tires go 60 miles and hour faster than your b.f. goodrich can go 60 miles an hr!!! please people stop asking what amp sounds better! most respectablewill tell you they all sound the same before clipping,its the sales reps and sales people that started this whole {amp sounding better}thing. look for the power you want and a respectable name. if i hear one more "which amp is better, my lear jet or my sherwood" i think i will be nice to my wife for a day! think people think befor asking dumb questions. phew glad i got that off my chest.. now anyone know what speaker cable sounds the best?
I wasn't going to respond to you but then I saw that you had an XES Z50. You mean to tell me you would spend that kind of cheese on a headunit and not think that the amp matters?
11-18-2005, 03:00 AM
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Not only do you have to align the RCA and batteries, but you have to make sure that you breathe and blink at certain intervals so that burning a calorie or two does not cause fatigue and ultimately force you to hear time smear. [img]graemlins/jack.gif[/img]
11-18-2005, 01:52 PM
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^ Heyyy, a pro-installer from Abby that comes out swinging on his very first post.
I think some introductions are in order, eh? [img]graemlins/thumb.gif[/img]
I think some introductions are in order, eh? [img]graemlins/thumb.gif[/img]
