Werd. I am also a Clarion/Alpine dealer and although I am an avid Alpiner, the Clarion decks are just as reliable. We sell a few more Clarions than Alpines but I still find we warranty about the same amounts. Mind-you, don't get me started on the Ungo (Clarion) alarms. I swear they are possesed by satan. LOL...

I have a DXZ835MP and it is a decent, useful deck that sounds good. I am waiting for my CDA-9815 to come in and when it does, my li'l Clarion will be going to a better place.

Nothing beats the Alpine for sound quality (In a decent price range of course).

Unfortunately as of now, both decks are on backorder in Canada so if you find a dealer that has one, get it !

 

Werd. I am also a Clarion/Alpine dealer and although I am an avid Alpiner, the Clarion decks are just as reliable. We sell a few more Clarions than Alpines but I still find we warranty about the same amounts. Mind-you, don't get me started on the Ungo (Clarion) alarms. I swear they are possesed by satan. LOL...

I have a DXZ835MP and it is a decent, useful deck that sounds good. I am waiting for my CDA-9815 to come in and when it does, my li'l Clarion will be going to a better place.

Nothing beats the Alpine for sound quality (In a decent price range of course).

Unfortunately as of now, both decks are on backorder in Canada so if you find a dealer that has one, get it ! </font>[/QUOTE]It seems lots of online places here in the US have had issues getting the 835 as well. As for sound quality in a decent price range, I think Eclipse is pretty tough to beat.

[ June 25, 2003, 06:38 PM: Message edited by: PerryB ]

 

What does Eclipse have that compares to the Dxz835 or the Alpine cda9815(60x4, i-personalize,digital time correction) in the same price range?

 

Eclipse doesn't have an internal amp that is rated as highly as the V-drive. They have 2 models that have time correction, the 8443 and 8053 but those don't play mp3s). I use the clarion 835 right now and love it, but I may eventually go back to Eclipse. The 8443(8 volt) lists for US$419, and the 8053 lists for US$549.

 

So... Nothing. They have stuff thats more expensive with less features.

 

Eclipse's 8 volt is $419(and has time correction, etc). So, you could also say that Alpine has nothing that compares(since they don't have an 8 volt deck unless you want to spend US$7K on the F1 status and processor). More features also doesn't mean "better." It all comes down to what you perceive as having value(higher voltage, mp3, that i personalize stuff, etc). If you want mp3 and a ton of features then get the alpine(or pioneer or the clarion), but an 8 volt Eclipse for US$419, authorized, is a pretty sweet deal.

 

Eclipse's 8 volt is $419(and has time correction, etc). So, you could also say that Alpine has nothing that compares(since they don't have an 8 volt deck unless you want to spend US$7K on the F1 status and processor). More features also doesn't mean "better." It all comes down to what you perceive as having value(higher voltage, mp3, that i personalize stuff, etc). If you want mp3 and a ton of features then get the alpine(or pioneer or the clarion), but an 8 volt Eclipse for US$419, authorized, is a pretty sweet deal. </font>[/QUOTE]Like I said, and you finished telling us, they have nothing that compares to the 9815 or the 835mp. I'm not knocking Eclipse as a company or their product I just think for 99% of people, more value could be had fom the Clarion or the Alpine.

 

Eclipse's 8 volt is $419(and has time correction, etc). So, you could also say that Alpine has nothing that compares(since they don't have an 8 volt deck unless you want to spend US$7K on the F1 status and processor). More features also doesn't mean "better." It all comes down to what you perceive as having value(higher voltage, mp3, that i personalize stuff, etc). If you want mp3 and a ton of features then get the alpine(or pioneer or the clarion), but an 8 volt Eclipse for US$419, authorized, is a pretty sweet deal. </font>[/QUOTE]Like I said, and you finished telling us, they have nothing that compares to the 9815 or the 835mp. I'm not knocking Eclipse as a company or their product I just think for 99% of people, more value could be had fom the Clarion or the Alpine. </font>[/QUOTE]From your post, I thought you were slamming Eclipse for being overpriced(which I think, for what you get, they are reasonably priced), but true, they don't have a 4 volt mp3 deck if that is the core features we are comparing. For many people, # of features will win out over higher voltage pre outs. I have used eclipse decks in the past(last 9 years, I used eclipse), and now I am running a clarion. I have no complaints so far with this deck.

 

Can I have a hug?

 

In your opinion do you think the 8053 with the eclipse commander is worth it over say an alpine 7995 or clarion 835mp? I am looking for a good deck and eclipse has some awesome SQ decks but they do lack the MP3 feature which is something I would prefer to have.

how much do the eclipse 7inch flip out screen decks run for out in the US&gt;?