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Old 03-15-2011, 02:18 AM
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Speaker and tweeter placement

I'm gonna be doing a pair of Massive Audio CK6 components for my front stage with plans to add CDT 6x9 subs and upstage tweeter kit if need be. Question is, if I'm not really looking to compete, does it really matter if I put them in kicks or doors. I know the thinking of more equal path lengths. But wondering how crucial this is in my case? I'm trying to work form and functionality into design and my design works better with components in the doors.
Also wondering how much difference putting the tweets by the mids will make vs. The sail panels. I have stock speakers in doors with aftermarket tweets in sail panels now that kick in at 1.4 kHz and think it sounds great. Co
Pared to stock at least. Is overlap of speaker frequencies necessarily a bad thing?
Just looking for input of SQ guys or anyone with a practical experience. Remember not competing. Just wanna play loud and clear and sound goo
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Old 03-15-2011, 09:03 AM
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Saying you don't want to compete doesn't say much about your goals...

Doesn't seem like you care about imaging and having a stage, so stick whatever you want wherever you want and it can be loud and enjoyable wherever you put them IMO. I would suggest putting in more speakers (rear doors and rear shelf) it will at least help with frequency response across the entire car:no weird stuff when you turn your head.
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Old 03-15-2011, 01:27 PM
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Goals; play loud and clear (as mentioned above). Would like it to sound good enough that someone with some knowledge and experience in SQ would also think so. Without going into time alignment etc. Right away. There's not alot of SQ comps on Vancouver island and I don't plan to travel just to compete.
I'm simply asking for opinion from some SQ vets. I will try all my speaker placements before final install. Just wondering a good starting point. I will also have rear speakers in the vehicle but even in fairly stock arrangement I like them as faint rear fill.
I don't care a whole bunch about imaging and staging. Just don't want sound to all be coming from my ankles. Is the only way to get around this with time alignment? That's why I was thinking tweets in sails, to bring the image up. Can this be accomplished by low speaker locations pointed more toward dome light?. The tweeters do a broad range incl. Vocals( as u know, I believe you're running the same speakers) so I thought sails could be utilized and still keep a decent image if my mids were in doors. Thanks for input.
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Old 03-15-2011, 03:17 PM
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Mids in the doors and tweeters in the A-pillars works very well in many cars. Imaging won't be ideal but should work out alright.
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Old 03-15-2011, 09:04 PM
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I use my tweeters in the sails and it sounds pretty good, Depending on the components it may sound better or worse. If you cheap out like buying a set of Infinity Reference components you will get hearing fatigue because there tweeters are too bright.
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I listen to these components almost every day at the shop where I work and just imagine how they'll sound/look in my car in pods. All planned out in my head and looks great. I want to get them in asap but am not sure of their output off deck power. May not be able to keep up with the subs without amplification. Maybe ill do the woofers and run my current aftermarket tweeters until amped. They sound great off deck power. I think I'm gonna get my supplies with tax return money and get started soon. sshhh.... don't tell my wife.
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Kick pods are obviously the best choice, but if you don't have any foot room to spare, down low and as close to the front as you can get with the tweeters close to the mids is a close second according to what I have read. I just picked up an Alpine CDA-117, which has built in time correction to help correct odd path lengths.
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You have a kilowatt on 12s and wonder if you need an amp for the front speakers???

And you work in a shop??

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Old 03-16-2011, 03:15 PM
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I know I need an amp for speakers. Can I borrow some money.
What I'm sayin is I'm wondering how efficient these speakers are and am I gonna get comparable volume vs. Stock. That's why I was thinking of running my current massive tweeters because I know they're efficient and am happy with current output. At least until I can afford an amp.
Sure I plan on having an additional 4-ch for speakers plus another 2-ch to run front stage subs. But I'm not a millionaire. And do have a family to support.
Thanks for being condescending though

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Old 03-16-2011, 03:32 PM
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No problem. I'm good at it.

If it reinforces the fact that you need an amp, then it was effective.
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