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Dukk's a lover not a banner. hehe

Mr.DatSubishi

I know we can put this whole thing behind us. I am here to learn and don't claim to know it all. But don't appreciate being talked down to or mis quoted I don't have the most experience of the lot but I think I know my $#!+ Hopefully all is well.

Thanks for any real help as well

Dukk

Right there. Ok maybe I summarized but essentially you are pondering on whether you need an amp or not. With "1000" watts on the bottom end, the answer is yes.

There, I helped you. I actually helped you in my first post in this thread as well. As I explained before, I obviously got the wrong impression of you when you mentioned you worked in a shop. I have a more informed opinion now.

And dude, you were no where near being banned - you didn't even get points

Mr.DatSubishi

I guess I was mostly thinking out loud. Wondering how it would sound because that's how it WILL be run until I can afford an amp. I hope they are efficient enough that I get decent volume off deck power. I know it wont be the loudest or cleanest and will lack real punch and clarity with no real power. But step by step it will get done.

I do value your input as you seem to be a knowledgeable veteran, just don't
appreciate being talked down to. You can explain things in a more appropriate way and I wil probably know exactly what you're talking about. I do have a good knowledge base of practical and theoretical information. And am quick to catch on. Thanks again for the help

s21197

Hey datsubishi do u find that u have crap radio reveption? I have the same car and I can't stand to listen to AM radio it's so shittty

Mr.DatSubishi

^I almost never listen to the radio. And don't really listen to AM at all. I have an aftermarket alpine radio and reception is good. I'll ask my GF if she ever listened to AM and how it compares to this aftermarket reception. I only had the stock radio in there to wait out my 6 month Sirius sat radio trial. And that's pretty much all we listened to except CDs. I'll post her experience later.

Junkinthetrunk

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As this thread was looking to spiral right down the toilet and my good buddy the D-man (aka Dikk........ ha, ha, ha...... 12 years and we never even thought of that..... that's funny stuff !!) is involved, I continued to read on, skimming mostly.

Ok, first impressions here too were that the OP starts into that discussion area of some kind of competition level setup and yet not wanting to compete. Ok, so anyone walking that way you assume must have some knowledge. Most Jacks on the street no nothing of car audio comps. Then the shop comment. So the guy is in the environment I assume. Yeah, MAYBE the OP kinda tried to post himself off as somehow "in" the scene in trying to fit in ??? Is that fair to say? Then he bombed out by making a few comments that didn't make sense and the wolves jumped him. He fires back trying to protect his reputation. Downward spiral........ just another regular day on CCA.

Whatever........ anyways, bassheads have a 1K sub setup and run the rest off deck power. If you're trying to achieve something decent, I think the gameplan should be to create a balanced system. When knowledgable car audio people jump in (that are actually knowledgable), thats what they like to hear (unless you're into SPL). You're not there yet. Deck power is crap. Look at your system as a whole. It's only as good as the weakest link.

Yeah, you're poor and supporting Timmy and a pet. There's lots of us like that. No sympathy from me on that. That just means you have to spend your money wisely which means you need a game plan. If you're poor, don't bling it out and try to be "thee man" in town. Live within your means. 200 watt sub amp on an efficient sub that doesn't need lotsa power. Decent entry level 4 channel on a nice set of components. That's where your head should be. Kick panels and tweeter pods is a joke at this stage. Kick panels sound cool but are REALLY expensive to do right. Tweeters up high are nice but can also rip your head off, destroy your sound stage and generally sound like azz if not dealt with properly.

My point is play smart. Not all the advice you may get will be good. That means you MUST do some homework and make yourself knowledgable first and foremost. Then come to the table. And you need to travel further then CCA. Not everything on this forum that gets posted is right. Oh, and one other thing. Some of the worst advice I've heard of some times comes from installers in the industry. It's a minefield out there. Good luck.

Anyways, enuf from me.

Mr.DatSubishi

^u thought it was goin downhill? You shoulda seen what I posted and edited the day after. Lol.

I want a set up mostly for show, but I'm not one to do something like that. Form usually follows function on my personal car work. ( mostly streetable racing import stuff) I do need it to sound good too but this one will follow form in this case. I do compete in spl at a street level, love bass, but want a clean looking functional system to go along with it.

I thought my comments that were bashed made sense and even when quoted later, some phrases like "until amped" were omitted. I tried to explain what I had said clearer but it seemed to fall on deaf (or dumb, in the classic sense[retarded]not stupid) ears.

I think my overall plan is feasible and I'd rather save up and spend money on a good amp vs. entry level. I'll just have to suffer with the sound until then. Which I'm willing to do. I already have the speakers and will be making the pods myself. It will be a learning excercise but I'm sure they'll end up A+. I will be asking for advice along the way to make sure they do.

I've had the sub amp for like 6 years and feel no need to change it, run a huge box that takes up most of my trunk but like to pound when appropriate. Like I said function will follow form on this build so I'd like to get pods in and looking good. Obviously I'm not gonna add front stage subs until we're all amped but it is part of the ultimate goal.

Thanks go the advice Tom. I do take any advice given and am here to gain some more knowledge. I hope to impress, or at least gain some respect, with the quality and finished product of my install. In the end as long as I'm happy. But I'm hoping some good things will come out of this forum. Most of my dealings on here have been quite positive so far.

Thanks again to everyone with USEFUL feedback

Junkinthetrunk

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No worries. You got to remember that my good ole buddy Dukk there is old and crusty, unlike myself who is wise and easy to get along with always. I've NEVER caused ANY issues on this forum...... EVER !!

I have no experience with the Massive stuff or '09 Lancers, but when it comes time, test drive the gear in the location where you want to permanently mount them BEFORE you permanently mount them. You may find certain angles work better and things like the tweeters MAY sound better in the kick panels beside the mids. I don't know. I do know it's smart to test first, build later. Measure 3 times, cut once. Reduces the amount of disappointment and shame later on.

I remember clearly the amount of work that went into a set of Audi kick-panels where I gutted all the automotive CRAP that was behind the plastic cover (wiring harnesses, modules, etc) to achieve audio perfection for a deep set of Rainbow drivers. But I tested first and all the work was worthy of the effort. If it wasn't, I would have had to string myself up and be bled out like a dead moose carcass. Was a frustrating and nerve racking job making all the extensions and such to relocate junk. Gaaaah.

Dukk

I was kind of enjoying your drop-in on the first post. Now, not so much...