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Old Mar 21, 2008 | 02:46 AM
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^ I'm sorry, maybe I got off bass (pun) with my quantum mechanic BS...... But..... we don't need to compare engines either....

I don't care what kind of transistors or class topology or brand of amp.... you won't hear a difference in 'SQ' between amps used within their bandwidth....



go ABX or go home
Old Mar 21, 2008 | 01:23 PM
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Haunz, you are just not in the "golden ear" club!
Old Mar 21, 2008 | 03:07 PM
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I've always been able to hear the differences in sound produced by amps utilizing different topologies. Night and day!
Old Mar 22, 2008 | 10:07 AM
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^And yet amazingly no one has ever been able to prove it in a structured comparison. Bizarre eh?

Me, I'm middle of the road - I believe some amps behave poorly and that can cause them to sound bad. I also believe that it is near impossible to tell the difference between two well made amps that are operating within their comfort zone, especially, as loudtdi pointed out:

the car is not even close to an optimal environment for audio reproduction.
Again, IMO the overall sound of a car will be altered by 49% speakers, 49% install, and 2% everything else combined: head unit, cables, amps, weather, mood, etc..
Old Mar 22, 2008 | 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by bmw5
LOL... all i can do is shake my head. So your saying everyone on zero hurtz is wrong and are liars....

You da man feel free to close my account or even better bann me, your pretty good at doing that right....


WHY DOES TRU MAKE DIFFERENT TYPES OF PRE AMP CARDS IF IT DOESN'T AFFECT SOUND?????????????????????????????
lol, yeah the crew over on Zero should be giving life lessons. At this time, they have about 4 active members. You obviously have no idea of the history between this site and a lot of the old more vocal members that don't even post there any more, so don't try to comment on it.

And yes, I apparently ban everyone for everything. More propaganda and preconceived notions.

So far you have been right about one thing though - I am The Man
Old Mar 22, 2008 | 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Dukk
So far you have been right about one thing though - I am The Man
"And that's the bottom line, cuz:
LORD DUKK SAYS SO!"

Just a little flashback...
Old Mar 22, 2008 | 11:13 AM
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To the original poster:

You should be made aware that this is a big debate and never ends well regardless of the forum. If amplifiers were so easy to distinguish, this topic would not be a debate and proof would be easy to come by.

Here is good reading on just such an ABX test, if you understand the principal behind scitentific testing and controlling the environment to understand what variables play what roles then you should enjoye this:
http://bruce.coppola.name/audio/Amp_Sound.pdf

The more you stick around, and hopefully you do and don't get to much of a saour taste, you will notice that car audio is mostly driven by "greener grass on ther other side" syndrome then actual "upgrades" and benefits.

It could be said that there are always measurable differences between 2 peices of technologies, however, our natural senses don't evolve with the ever upgrading equipement thus, we end up with better gear then our senses can make differences of.
Old Mar 24, 2008 | 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Blu
"And that's the bottom line, cuz:
LORD DUKK SAYS SO!"

Just a little flashback...
heh, oh yeah. And people say I have attitude now...
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