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Old 06-10-2011, 06:21 PM
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Turn-on noise.

Hi everyone!

So I have been dealing with this issue for a bit now and cannot figure out what the issue is.
I have had the car looked at multiple times by others and the problem cannot be solved.

So here it is!

Upon turn on I recieve a squeak / pop / thump through all of my speakers. The strength of which varies randomly. It can range from a tiny squeak to a rare thump sending an amp into protect.

The gear that I am using is,
Head Unit - Pioneer DEX-P99RS
Amps - Zed Leviathan, Zed Kronos

Testing done so far has ruled out certain things.
RCA's disconnected - still happens
Rear Battery disconnected - still happens
REM jumped straight off of battery - disappears

So it was thought that because the headunit was connected to front battery while amps directly to rear battery there was some kind of fluctuation. A relay was added allowing the amps to be activated by front battery - Still happens.

I have also tried a variable turn on delay to no avail.
I have gone through and tightened all of my grounds and still nothing.

Also the Zed's are post faulty chip era.

Does any one have ANY ideas at all?
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Old 06-10-2011, 07:31 PM
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So if your amps turn on first, the noise goes away?
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Old 06-10-2011, 07:37 PM
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no difference if the amp / headunit turn on first.

playing with the headunit grounds did make a difference though
its factory harness right now.

taking the ground away and relying strictly on the antennae resulted in a much more pronounced squeak/pop.
grounding to the chassis didn't make any difference than using the factory harness though.
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Old 06-10-2011, 10:20 PM
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do you have a turn on relay?
if not try adding one
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Old 06-10-2011, 10:30 PM
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I've read about blown muting transistors in some cases - whatever they are

I also have turn off pop (long story short, I had a dead short from amp speaker outputs

to ground - resulting in a blown output transistor, which is still un-repaired, so for my

front outputs I am using speaker level inputs to a LOC.... anyway ever since "tractor

pulling" my front inputs I now have turn off noise, even if I unpower the amplifier before

the head unit.
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Old 06-10-2011, 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by nghtrdr View Post
do you have a turn on relay?
if not try adding one


yes, a relay has been added. didn't work.
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Old 06-11-2011, 09:41 AM
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Relays add noise because of coil transients when power is un-applied from the coil... even with a protection diode
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Not sure if this would help you, but, have you checked the all the grounds impedences with a DMM?
When we had a similar problem, it was cured when we changed our grounds to a new place with the same low impedance as the front battery ground.
We had 3 ground points before, all different imp., after, we had 2 with the exact same impedance and no noise
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Old 06-11-2011, 10:56 AM
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thanks guys, i'm about to go out and try some of this now.


i know now that relays add noise. there is an audible click when they activate and you can hear it shut off through the speakers.
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I'm having the same problems with mine, tried swapping the RCAs and that didn't change anything.
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