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05-21-2005, 07:00 PM
#32
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Pant-pant-pant ...drooool [img]graemlins/bow.gif[/img]
How can u just come out and torture us like that D-Mac??? [img]tongue.gif[/img]
What will u use for reference material for DVD-Audio???
[ May 21, 2005, 08:05 PM: Message edited by: islandphile ]
How can u just come out and torture us like that D-Mac??? [img]tongue.gif[/img]
What will u use for reference material for DVD-Audio???
[ May 21, 2005, 08:05 PM: Message edited by: islandphile ]
05-23-2005, 05:31 PM
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Mikko and Dave - why? It doesn't accomplish anything for me to suggest what products I feel are killer bargains. In the same way it accomplishes nothing for me to suggest what products I feel are grossly overpriced - aside from offending a few members on the board [img]graemlins/dunno.gif[/img]
As I have opined in the past: active is easy, quick, mindless but IMO an all passive system can accomplish the same goal and has a certain charm that possibly only tube amp and phonograph fans can relate to.
As I have opined in the past: active is easy, quick, mindless but IMO an all passive system can accomplish the same goal and has a certain charm that possibly only tube amp and phonograph fans can relate to.
05-23-2005, 07:08 PM
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an active system is far from mindless, it fact, taking a huge amount of more time to maybe achieve something close to a good active system, seems mindless to me [img]graemlins/thumb.gif[/img]
as for your good value products, im noit to sure what it is that bothers you about talking about them, but whatever floats your boat, i guess. i think we wanted to know more for the purpose of hearing your thoughts rather that to laff at. i guess your incredible value products will forever be shrouded in mystery. then again the value of a product is based on the person placing that value, one mans jewel, another mans junk
as for your good value products, im noit to sure what it is that bothers you about talking about them, but whatever floats your boat, i guess. i think we wanted to know more for the purpose of hearing your thoughts rather that to laff at. i guess your incredible value products will forever be shrouded in mystery. then again the value of a product is based on the person placing that value, one mans jewel, another mans junk
05-24-2005, 12:46 AM
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I did say "With all due R-E-S-P-E-C-T" Paul, that refers to the fact that I and surely many here value your opinions and years of fooling around with this stuff....surely you must know that by now???
I for one would find these revelations very enlightening and potentially cost effective....Why are you worried about having to accomplish anything with this list, it's just simple sharing really... [img]graemlins/dunno.gif[/img]
So once again, I would really LOVE to know what product YOU consider to be on your "get way more bang for the bux" list, either a current product or an older goldie??
And Paul, what specific quality(ies) in your mind and respected opinion makes that product a winner?
Thanks in advance for your consideration [img]graemlins/thumb.gif[/img]
I for one would find these revelations very enlightening and potentially cost effective....Why are you worried about having to accomplish anything with this list, it's just simple sharing really... [img]graemlins/dunno.gif[/img]
So once again, I would really LOVE to know what product YOU consider to be on your "get way more bang for the bux" list, either a current product or an older goldie??
And Paul, what specific quality(ies) in your mind and respected opinion makes that product a winner?
Thanks in advance for your consideration [img]graemlins/thumb.gif[/img]
05-24-2005, 07:20 AM
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i have came across a few very good value products oiver the years, although some arent cheap, the real value is in the benefit of whats gained by using them, here is a short list
audio control 2xs, back in the day, and once in a while these days, this x-over was capable of making a huge difference in alot of peoples stereos, you can find them used now for 40-50$
dr crankenstien spl 12". hard as hell to blow up and you could buy them by the pallet from allegro for like 18 cents each or something, bought a new car cuz of those, they were 99$ retail
morel mdt30 tweeter, the best value tweeter on the planet imo, at 150$ or so, you cant lose
audio alchemy dtav1.1 outboard d/a converter with anti jitter, was aroung 500$ new and can be picked up today for under 100 bucks. put a few of those in cars and was always blown away
mtx black gold 10" woofer, still some of the best bass ive ever heard in a car, for around 200$ when new
phoenix gold bass cube, always made a huge difference for only 300$ or so new, i will use one in my house one day if my neon ever gets finished
saved the best for last, alpine pxah900, at 5999.95, easily the best piece of car audio processing ever made, and worth every penny, the only people that would dispute it are people that dont own one or have never used one
i havent really ever came across a really inexspensive piece of car audio that really stuck min my mind as something that i couldnt live without, but would find it interesting to hear other peoples treaures
[ May 24, 2005, 08:23 AM: Message edited by: defro13 ]
audio control 2xs, back in the day, and once in a while these days, this x-over was capable of making a huge difference in alot of peoples stereos, you can find them used now for 40-50$
dr crankenstien spl 12". hard as hell to blow up and you could buy them by the pallet from allegro for like 18 cents each or something, bought a new car cuz of those, they were 99$ retail
morel mdt30 tweeter, the best value tweeter on the planet imo, at 150$ or so, you cant lose
audio alchemy dtav1.1 outboard d/a converter with anti jitter, was aroung 500$ new and can be picked up today for under 100 bucks. put a few of those in cars and was always blown away
mtx black gold 10" woofer, still some of the best bass ive ever heard in a car, for around 200$ when new
phoenix gold bass cube, always made a huge difference for only 300$ or so new, i will use one in my house one day if my neon ever gets finished
saved the best for last, alpine pxah900, at 5999.95, easily the best piece of car audio processing ever made, and worth every penny, the only people that would dispute it are people that dont own one or have never used one
i havent really ever came across a really inexspensive piece of car audio that really stuck min my mind as something that i couldnt live without, but would find it interesting to hear other peoples treaures
[ May 24, 2005, 08:23 AM: Message edited by: defro13 ]
05-24-2005, 08:36 AM
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Swan 305, available from Madisound. Great sounding, affordable 12" woofer that you can seal, port, and bandpass load.
Focal 5K013-L 5" polykevlar midrange. They don't make them any more, but they are fantastic drivers with great dynamic range. Can also be run from really low to really high...like 40hz to 4khz in a car. They were $75 bucks cdn each!!!
The MDT-30 mentioned above...
And for the all time greatest piece of car audio gear on my list....
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The PXA-H900 of course.
Adam
Focal 5K013-L 5" polykevlar midrange. They don't make them any more, but they are fantastic drivers with great dynamic range. Can also be run from really low to really high...like 40hz to 4khz in a car. They were $75 bucks cdn each!!!
The MDT-30 mentioned above...
And for the all time greatest piece of car audio gear on my list....
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The PXA-H900 of course.
Adam
05-25-2005, 01:26 PM
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A passive system takes marginally more time to install than an active one. Essentially the time to assemble the networks and potentially a few component changes.
What a passive system does require is an excellent understanding of the equipment and the environment the equipment is going into.
I will agree that a passive system is not as easy to tune as turning a dial or pressing a button until the system sounds alright. One has to do some pre-engineering to get it right or very close to right the first time around.
What a passive system does require is an excellent understanding of the equipment and the environment the equipment is going into.
I will agree that a passive system is not as easy to tune as turning a dial or pressing a button until the system sounds alright. One has to do some pre-engineering to get it right or very close to right the first time around.
05-25-2005, 06:38 PM
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i agree it takes marginally more time to install, but way more time to design to reach the same end result as the active system. yous eem to think that an active sytem doesnt require as much understanding of the equipment, perhaps not to someone doing a basic active system, but someone using a pxah900 or 701, a far better understanding is critical
