Installing Bluetooth unit
Installing Bluetooth unit
So I got my Eclipse AVN 5510 all hooked up, driving an external amp and speakers.
I then get the Eclipse BTE-500 Bluetooth phone unit..and when I go to install, I find out that this Bluetooth module is designed to mute the AVN when receiving a call, and drives the audio via the *speaker* outputs from the AVN, and NOT the line out to the amp.
At no point does any signal from the Bluetooth unit enter the AVN itself to return out via the LINE OUT (as I had hoped). The Bluetooth unit amplifies the cell call itself and drives the speakers directly.
What a gyp...there is no documentation of this anywhere in Eclipse or the Parrot site (Parrot is the mfg of the Bluetooth unit.).
Anybody here do this install driving the LINE OUT? I have a notion of how to do it (tap into the LINE OUTs on my AVN)...but wondering if anybody has a more elegant method..
M
I then get the Eclipse BTE-500 Bluetooth phone unit..and when I go to install, I find out that this Bluetooth module is designed to mute the AVN when receiving a call, and drives the audio via the *speaker* outputs from the AVN, and NOT the line out to the amp.
At no point does any signal from the Bluetooth unit enter the AVN itself to return out via the LINE OUT (as I had hoped). The Bluetooth unit amplifies the cell call itself and drives the speakers directly.
What a gyp...there is no documentation of this anywhere in Eclipse or the Parrot site (Parrot is the mfg of the Bluetooth unit.).
Anybody here do this install driving the LINE OUT? I have a notion of how to do it (tap into the LINE OUTs on my AVN)...but wondering if anybody has a more elegant method..
M
any update on this bro?
i am getting the avn6620 and would like to add a parrot bluetooth kit.
are u saying if i don' use the inbuilt amplifier in the unit for the speakers, the bluettoth kit won't work?
also, can i use any parrot bluettoth kit or is there a specific one for the eclipse nav systems?
thanks
olddog
i am getting the avn6620 and would like to add a parrot bluetooth kit.
are u saying if i don' use the inbuilt amplifier in the unit for the speakers, the bluettoth kit won't work?
also, can i use any parrot bluettoth kit or is there a specific one for the eclipse nav systems?
thanks
olddog
Parrot makes the Eclipse BT units..they just put the Eclipse name on them, and the harness is made to fit the Eclipse BT unit.
I don't know about the AVN6620..but if it's anything like the BT unit for the AVN 5510 or 6610, then honestly, I wouldn't have even bought the Eclipse.
Kenwood just launched a new Nav unit...7 inch screen, BUILT IN Bluetooth and IPOD control, and 5V preouts as well.
Parrot's help desk isn't too great...but yes, the BT unit has to be hooked up to the Speaker outs on the AVN 5510 or 6610...otherwise you got to do a lot of complicated relay installations. It doesn't work with the LINE OUTs on the Eclipse AVN.
Again, I don't know about the AVN6620..maybe they've redesigned the BT unit, but I doubt it.
M
I don't know about the AVN6620..but if it's anything like the BT unit for the AVN 5510 or 6610, then honestly, I wouldn't have even bought the Eclipse.
Kenwood just launched a new Nav unit...7 inch screen, BUILT IN Bluetooth and IPOD control, and 5V preouts as well.
Parrot's help desk isn't too great...but yes, the BT unit has to be hooked up to the Speaker outs on the AVN 5510 or 6610...otherwise you got to do a lot of complicated relay installations. It doesn't work with the LINE OUTs on the Eclipse AVN.
Again, I don't know about the AVN6620..maybe they've redesigned the BT unit, but I doubt it.
M
I can't suggest a place, but I have found a solution. It's an electronic switch, from Navone Engineering out of California, the N-806. Basically, it's a little relay that switches from one line level input A to a line level input B when it receives a 12V signal. You wire the line output FR and FL from the Eclipse to input A, and the speaker output from the Parrot FR and FL thru a LOC (speaker to line level converter) to input B. Then, the RCA outputs from the N 806 go to your AMP, and the TEL MUTE wire from the Parrot to the red signal input on the N 806.
When the phone rings, the Parrot sends a 12V signal to the N 806, and it automatically switches input A Eclipse OFF, and input B Parrot ON.
I'm installing it this weekend and will let you know how it goes. The N 806 is only $25.
M
When the phone rings, the Parrot sends a 12V signal to the N 806, and it automatically switches input A Eclipse OFF, and input B Parrot ON.
I'm installing it this weekend and will let you know how it goes. The N 806 is only $25.
M
Success!!
I've finally found a solution, that is simple and cost-effective, of hooking up the Parrot Bluetooth modules to the Eclipse AVN series of head units.
These BT modules were not designed with aftermarket amps in mind, so I had to find a solution that would switch between the head unit and the bluetooth module. I also wanted to switch at the LINE level, instead of the speaker level. The wiring would be easier, since all the line level wiring is conveniently behind the headunit in car.
The solution, as so many have said, was wiring a DPDT relay in line. Since I was working with line level outputs, I didn't have to find a relay that needed to handle high wattage. The relay I found was a simply electronic A/B switch from Navone Engineering (the N-806). It's a DPDT relay with silver contacts that allows one to switch a Left and Right (L/R) channel from two sources. It has five wires on it:
-One pair of RCA inputs "A" that are by default "on";
-One pair of RCA inputs "B" that switch when the coil of the relay is energized;
-One pair of RCA outputs that connect to the downstream AMP;
-One red wire Power / Trigger wire;
-and one black GDN wire.
Basically, the setup was simple:
1- wire the FR L&R speaker outputs (rated at 6W) of my Parrot BT module to a speaker-to-line out converter (LOC). In turn this gets wired to the RCA input "B" of the N806.
2- wire the FR L&R Eclipse line outputs direct to the N806 RCA input "A".
3- wire the RED trigger wire of N806 to ignition (ACC) +12V.
4- wire the BLK gdn wire of N806 to the Eclipse pink TEL MUTE, and to the pink TEL MUTE (trigger) of the Bluetooth module.
5- wire the FR L&R RCA output from the N806 to the AMP.
So, when there is no phone call, the coil of the relay is not energized, and the Eclipse line out signal is free to go to the amplifier. When a phone call is received, it triggers the Bluetooth module to put the pink TEL MUTE to GND ground, which at the same times sends a GND to the Eclipse that puts it into "MUTE" mode, and *also* grounds the N806 relay, which energizes the coil, allows the signal from Input "B" to be active and flow thru to the amplifier.
Cost of the N806 is about $25. Great solution, highly recommended.
I've attached a simplified schematic for this.
Mikster
These BT modules were not designed with aftermarket amps in mind, so I had to find a solution that would switch between the head unit and the bluetooth module. I also wanted to switch at the LINE level, instead of the speaker level. The wiring would be easier, since all the line level wiring is conveniently behind the headunit in car.
The solution, as so many have said, was wiring a DPDT relay in line. Since I was working with line level outputs, I didn't have to find a relay that needed to handle high wattage. The relay I found was a simply electronic A/B switch from Navone Engineering (the N-806). It's a DPDT relay with silver contacts that allows one to switch a Left and Right (L/R) channel from two sources. It has five wires on it:
-One pair of RCA inputs "A" that are by default "on";
-One pair of RCA inputs "B" that switch when the coil of the relay is energized;
-One pair of RCA outputs that connect to the downstream AMP;
-One red wire Power / Trigger wire;
-and one black GDN wire.
Basically, the setup was simple:
1- wire the FR L&R speaker outputs (rated at 6W) of my Parrot BT module to a speaker-to-line out converter (LOC). In turn this gets wired to the RCA input "B" of the N806.
2- wire the FR L&R Eclipse line outputs direct to the N806 RCA input "A".
3- wire the RED trigger wire of N806 to ignition (ACC) +12V.
4- wire the BLK gdn wire of N806 to the Eclipse pink TEL MUTE, and to the pink TEL MUTE (trigger) of the Bluetooth module.
5- wire the FR L&R RCA output from the N806 to the AMP.
So, when there is no phone call, the coil of the relay is not energized, and the Eclipse line out signal is free to go to the amplifier. When a phone call is received, it triggers the Bluetooth module to put the pink TEL MUTE to GND ground, which at the same times sends a GND to the Eclipse that puts it into "MUTE" mode, and *also* grounds the N806 relay, which energizes the coil, allows the signal from Input "B" to be active and flow thru to the amplifier.
Cost of the N806 is about $25. Great solution, highly recommended.
I've attached a simplified schematic for this.
Mikster
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