Radar Detectors
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Your car is on a public road though, not private property. Have you seen the footage of the dumb chick who got tased twice for not complying with an officer? If they want to search your vehicle they can.
If you want to legally use a radar detector, move to Alberta.
If you want to legally use a radar detector, move to Alberta.
I didn't think that any law enforcement actually used VG2 dectector detector anymore. AT least law enforcement in the states has been using "spectra" to detect detectors because every cheap detector cloaks.
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Originally posted by DWVW:
Your car is on a public road though, not private property. Have you seen the footage of the dumb chick who got tased twice for not complying with an officer? If they want to search your vehicle they can.
If you want to legally use a radar detector, move to Alberta.
Your car is on a public road though, not private property. Have you seen the footage of the dumb chick who got tased twice for not complying with an officer? If they want to search your vehicle they can.
If you want to legally use a radar detector, move to Alberta.
Originally posted by DWVW:
Your car is on a public road though, not private property. Have you seen the footage of the dumb chick who got tased twice for not complying with an officer? If they want to search your vehicle they can.
If you want to legally use a radar detector, move to Alberta.
Your car is on a public road though, not private property. Have you seen the footage of the dumb chick who got tased twice for not complying with an officer? If they want to search your vehicle they can.
If you want to legally use a radar detector, move to Alberta.
Section 8 of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms:
8. Everyone has the right to be secure against unreasonable search or seizure.
Which means, they must have your permission, have arrested you for an offense, or have reasonale grounds to search your vehicle.
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Originally posted by Newb:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by DWVW:
Your car is on a public road though, not private property. Have you seen the footage of the dumb chick who got tased twice for not complying with an officer? If they want to search your vehicle they can.
If you want to legally use a radar detector, move to Alberta.
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by DWVW:
Your car is on a public road though, not private property. Have you seen the footage of the dumb chick who got tased twice for not complying with an officer? If they want to search your vehicle they can.
If you want to legally use a radar detector, move to Alberta.
Section 8 of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms:
8. Everyone has the right to be secure against unreasonable search or seizure.
Which means, they must have your permission, have arrested you for an offense, or have reasonale grounds to search your vehicle. </font>[/QUOTE]K as I already stated way up there.
"they can ask you permission to search"
"they can arrest you and then they can search and tear apart all they want"
"they obviously have reasonable grounds if their radar picked up yours."
Originally posted by Blind d(-_-)b:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Newb:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by DWVW:
Your car is on a public road though, not private property. Have you seen the footage of the dumb chick who got tased twice for not complying with an officer? If they want to search your vehicle they can.
If you want to legally use a radar detector, move to Alberta.
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Newb:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by DWVW:
Your car is on a public road though, not private property. Have you seen the footage of the dumb chick who got tased twice for not complying with an officer? If they want to search your vehicle they can.
If you want to legally use a radar detector, move to Alberta.
Section 8 of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms:
8. Everyone has the right to be secure against unreasonable search or seizure.
Which means, they must have your permission, have arrested you for an offense, or have reasonale grounds to search your vehicle. </font>[/QUOTE]K as I already stated way up there.
"they can ask you permission to search"
"they can arrest you and then they can search and tear apart all they want"
"they obviously have reasonable grounds if their radar picked up yours." </font>[/QUOTE]The issue we were referring to is if during a regular traffic stop a cop can search your vehicle without consent. Many people think you have to allow the cop to search, and you just don't.
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[[/qb][/QUOTE]The issue we were referring to is if during a regular traffic stop a cop can search your vehicle without consent. Many people think you have to allow the cop to search, and you just don't. [/QB][/QUOTE]]
Dude are reading the same thread we are, we are talking about it being ILLEGAL in Ontario. [img]graemlins/banghead.gif[/img]
As I said earlier the cop needs only probable cause to search your vehicle and if he's pulled you over for a detector thats all he needs to pull apart your car to find it!!!!
[ August 16, 2005, 07:14 AM: Message edited by: Mullen ]
Dude are reading the same thread we are, we are talking about it being ILLEGAL in Ontario. [img]graemlins/banghead.gif[/img]
As I said earlier the cop needs only probable cause to search your vehicle and if he's pulled you over for a detector thats all he needs to pull apart your car to find it!!!!
[ August 16, 2005, 07:14 AM: Message edited by: Mullen ]
I am assuming, unless the cop is having a really bad day, he/she will ask you where it is first, because they know what they are looking for.
They know you didn't hide it in a hard to reach place, because 1. you don't have the time to, and 2. it would have to be done while in the drivers seat, while slowing down. If they see you in a mad flurry trying to hide something once you pull over, you give them probable cause to search for something illegal that you are transporting.
They know you didn't hide it in a hard to reach place, because 1. you don't have the time to, and 2. it would have to be done while in the drivers seat, while slowing down. If they see you in a mad flurry trying to hide something once you pull over, you give them probable cause to search for something illegal that you are transporting.
Originally posted by Mullen:
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Dude are reading the same thread we are, we are talking about it being ILLEGAL in Ontario. [img]graemlins/banghead.gif[/img]
As I said earlier the cop needs only probable cause to search your vehicle and if he's pulled you over for a detector thats all he needs to pull apart your car to find it!!!! [/QB][/QUOTE]
Can you not read? It was stated that if you are pulled over PERIOD that you MUST allow a cop to search your car. Even if you have a detector, if the cop is ASKING he probably doesn't feel that he has probable cause.
Also, as far as I can research having a radar detector is a traffic offense anyways making a search of the vehicle not permissible on the grounds of probable cause.
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I know this is an american site, but I can't see Canada being TOO much different:
http://www.flexyourrights.org/traffic_stop_scenario
"3) Just Say "No" to Warrantless Searches
Warning: If a police officer asks your permission to search, you are under no obligation to consent. The only reason he's asking you is because he doesn't have enough evidence to search without your consent. If you consent to a search request you give up one of the most important constitutional rights you have—your Fourth Amendment protection against unreasonable searches and seizures.
A majority of avoidable police searches occur because citizens naively waive their Fourth Amendment rights by consenting to warrantless searches. As a general rule, if a person consents to a warrantless search, the search automatically becomes reasonable and therefore legal. Consequently, whatever an officer finds during such a search can be used to convict the person.
Don't expect a police officer to tell you about your right not to consent. Police officers are not required by law to inform you of your rights before asking you to consent to a search. In addition, police officers are trained to use their authority to get people to consent to a search, and most people are predisposed to comply with any request a police officer makes. For example, the average motorist stopped by a police officer who asks them, "Would you mind if I search your vehicle, please?" will probably consent to the officer's search without realizing that they have every right to deny the officer's request.
If, for any reason you don't want the officer digging through your belongings, you should refuse to consent by saying something like, "Officer, I know you want to do your job, but I do not consent to any searches of my private property." If the officer still proceeds to search you and finds illegal contraband, your attorney can argue that the contraband was discovered through an illegal search and hence should be thrown out of court.
You should never hesitate to assert your constitutional rights. Just say "no!""
http://www.flexyourrights.org/traffic_stop_scenario
"3) Just Say "No" to Warrantless Searches
Warning: If a police officer asks your permission to search, you are under no obligation to consent. The only reason he's asking you is because he doesn't have enough evidence to search without your consent. If you consent to a search request you give up one of the most important constitutional rights you have—your Fourth Amendment protection against unreasonable searches and seizures.
A majority of avoidable police searches occur because citizens naively waive their Fourth Amendment rights by consenting to warrantless searches. As a general rule, if a person consents to a warrantless search, the search automatically becomes reasonable and therefore legal. Consequently, whatever an officer finds during such a search can be used to convict the person.
Don't expect a police officer to tell you about your right not to consent. Police officers are not required by law to inform you of your rights before asking you to consent to a search. In addition, police officers are trained to use their authority to get people to consent to a search, and most people are predisposed to comply with any request a police officer makes. For example, the average motorist stopped by a police officer who asks them, "Would you mind if I search your vehicle, please?" will probably consent to the officer's search without realizing that they have every right to deny the officer's request.
If, for any reason you don't want the officer digging through your belongings, you should refuse to consent by saying something like, "Officer, I know you want to do your job, but I do not consent to any searches of my private property." If the officer still proceeds to search you and finds illegal contraband, your attorney can argue that the contraband was discovered through an illegal search and hence should be thrown out of court.
You should never hesitate to assert your constitutional rights. Just say "no!""
