Women, are they worth it? Who knows.
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Not that I'm religious, and yes this is a good string, as everyone here seems to be able to contribute some advice..,and opinions but..,
The bible tells us that Woman was created from Man's rib, not his head to be above him, or his foot, to be below him, rather from the rib, to be beside him.
It's also said that a man should place his woman on a pedastle, but not too high that he may not reach her.
Woman is to earth as man is to the seed, and a seed will flourish better on tilled land.
You married each other for a reason, find it again,(try a different routine, like you're doing now, get spontaneous, have a family trip/outing) .
The bible tells us that Woman was created from Man's rib, not his head to be above him, or his foot, to be below him, rather from the rib, to be beside him.
It's also said that a man should place his woman on a pedastle, but not too high that he may not reach her.
Woman is to earth as man is to the seed, and a seed will flourish better on tilled land.
You married each other for a reason, find it again,(try a different routine, like you're doing now, get spontaneous, have a family trip/outing) .
Originally Posted by ChrisB
Oh man, this thread is a joke (no offence to the person who started it)
I hope noone ever asks for love advice on here, the results would be disasterous!
I hope noone ever asks for love advice on here, the results would be disasterous!
lol your tellin me... i made a mistake simaler to that quetion... i love how these guys are... grown ups but have the mind of a 14 year old...
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"flame retardant suit on" i have rarely ever seen a bad situation between an man and a women that couldnt at its core typically be attributed to something the man did, with exception to the obvious, infidelty. i think that in the crapshoot of life women really get a raw deal. the hormonal swingset that women have to ride on everday can be difficult. when i hear stories like this i can think of a really appropriate saying "live a week in my shoes". men we have it easy compared to women, and that affords women a little bit of stretch room when it come to overreacting or being sensitive, or at least it should. now there are some women that are just plain nasty, nasty, nasty, and take the weight of the world on thier shoulders(at least in thier eyes) and take great pride in fullthrottle manhating, and they can kiss my dogs ***. but for the majority of women we have to be extra understanding a take a step back and deep beath and look at it this way, we need them more that they need us. for the record i am very happily married, have no kids, a dog and a mortgage, and so much respect for my wife that you cant imagine, cuz it aint always a party being married to 'ol defro13, at least not for her
...cuz it aint always a party being married to 'ol defro13, at least not for her...

Any relationship is about compromise, give and take. Sure there will be times where compromise is hard and it leads to disagreement but this is going to happen between any two humans - man and woman, two good friends or whatever.
maybe 40 years ago I would have agreed with Defro.
The womens movment has changed all the rules, and in our society today there is a new set 'politically correct' racist/sexist ways...
Last I checked you arn't allowed to act like a little boy growing up in school or you'll be punished....
later in life if you are in a long term relationship that goes south there is a greater chance that you will be the one who gets the shaft IMO. Familly law in this country is obviously EXTREMLY ONE SIDED.
As far as who stays home and raises the kids and who goes out and works... Ive experienced both and IMO taking care of kids and the house is a hell of a lot easier then any paying job I've EVER had... I think if you want to argue otherwise, the only fair scenario is that both parties work to make money and share responsibility for raising kids and doing house work... (of course if she is already complaining chances are she won't want to work a real job either)
In all fairness I also know for a fact there are a hell of a lot of complete men out there... but Ive personally pretty much always got the short end of the stick in any relationship Ive been in as well as every other 'nice guy' I know.... I can also honestly say that every women in my familly has shown an incredible capacity to act like a ubber bitch... what is up with that ?
I'll continue my 'nice guy' approach to every women I meet.. I don't like being a ***** just so I can come out ahead of someone else... but I also refuse to act like an AFC for my entire life....
(AFC = average frustrated chump)
The womens movment has changed all the rules, and in our society today there is a new set 'politically correct' racist/sexist ways...
Last I checked you arn't allowed to act like a little boy growing up in school or you'll be punished....
later in life if you are in a long term relationship that goes south there is a greater chance that you will be the one who gets the shaft IMO. Familly law in this country is obviously EXTREMLY ONE SIDED.
As far as who stays home and raises the kids and who goes out and works... Ive experienced both and IMO taking care of kids and the house is a hell of a lot easier then any paying job I've EVER had... I think if you want to argue otherwise, the only fair scenario is that both parties work to make money and share responsibility for raising kids and doing house work... (of course if she is already complaining chances are she won't want to work a real job either)
In all fairness I also know for a fact there are a hell of a lot of complete men out there... but Ive personally pretty much always got the short end of the stick in any relationship Ive been in as well as every other 'nice guy' I know.... I can also honestly say that every women in my familly has shown an incredible capacity to act like a ubber bitch... what is up with that ?
I'll continue my 'nice guy' approach to every women I meet.. I don't like being a ***** just so I can come out ahead of someone else... but I also refuse to act like an AFC for my entire life....
(AFC = average frustrated chump)
Last edited by Haunz; Feb 26, 2006 at 03:13 AM.
Haunz - staying home taking care of the kids is easier when they can talk. I only refer to the time in their lives when they're infants and they don't/can't talk. That's the challenging part. However later on down the road when they can walk and talk it can be very easy compared to a fulltime job
(Not being negative or anything in this post. 100% positive)
(Not being negative or anything in this post. 100% positive)
Booo I must have been in a bad mood earlier...
damn, I would do anything for my son or his mom... and I wish we were all still together....
but even today after I posted that, I had more fingers pointing at me like Iam a bad person... seems that way no matter what I do...
no wonder I posted that the way I get treated every single day...
I still think the women have it better off.....
damn, I would do anything for my son or his mom... and I wish we were all still together....
but even today after I posted that, I had more fingers pointing at me like Iam a bad person... seems that way no matter what I do...
no wonder I posted that the way I get treated every single day...
I still think the women have it better off.....
Not that I don't still believe that a family unit has to work to function as one, but..
Having an infant (one who cannot interact with the parent) at home does not limit the parent to outside interaction if indeed they want it. A baby is not a scapegoat for guilt..
Having an infant (one who cannot interact with the parent) at home does not limit the parent to outside interaction if indeed they want it. A baby is not a scapegoat for guilt..
OK, well, I'm put my 2 cents in. My wife stays home most of the time, and works part time. We have a 3 year old son, and another on the way. Now, when we got married, we agreed that whoever made less money, would take maternity/paternity, and the other would work. So far this has worked out that she stays home, and I drive full time. Now, I'm home evenings, weekends, and Mondays, so she's not alone all the time, and her parents are right next door, litterally. But, staying home and having only a 3 year old for company can be tedious, especially if you have MS, which she does, so I help out as much as I can.
I do 90% of the cooking, we have a new BBQ, so this doesn't bother me at all, and I like to cook. She looks after our son, and keeps the house relatively clean. Our house is not a laboratory clean room, and I don't expect it to be, just neat, and tidy. I mean jeez anyone with kids knows how long it takes for a 3 year old to make a mess, especially if you're trying to do Laundry, dishes, whatever. I get to play with him all weekend, and she works. Mondays, we usually go out with him somewhere.
Sure we have fights, no couple doesn't have fights. But, you need to talk it out, and COMPROMISE. Now, compromise does NOT include giving in to whatever she says, beleive it or not, they want you to have a backbone. They want you do disagree, and eventually, will get bored if you don't. They expect you to argue, especially if you think you are right, because, well, it's interaction.
I do 90% of the cooking, we have a new BBQ, so this doesn't bother me at all, and I like to cook. She looks after our son, and keeps the house relatively clean. Our house is not a laboratory clean room, and I don't expect it to be, just neat, and tidy. I mean jeez anyone with kids knows how long it takes for a 3 year old to make a mess, especially if you're trying to do Laundry, dishes, whatever. I get to play with him all weekend, and she works. Mondays, we usually go out with him somewhere.
Sure we have fights, no couple doesn't have fights. But, you need to talk it out, and COMPROMISE. Now, compromise does NOT include giving in to whatever she says, beleive it or not, they want you to have a backbone. They want you do disagree, and eventually, will get bored if you don't. They expect you to argue, especially if you think you are right, because, well, it's interaction.




