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After the 2 1X shows on saturday I will be glad to help test the 2 sundowns vs. the single Z1. Im sure others have amps we could try out too, like the crossfire 4000d, 2000d, dd m2. This will settle the Sundown vs. other companies debate once and for all.
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Originally Posted by The C Team
After the 2 1X shows on saturday I will be glad to help test the 2 sundowns vs. the single Z1. Im sure others have amps we could try out too, like the crossfire 4000d, 2000d, dd m2. This will settle the Sundown vs. other companies debate once and for all.
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Originally Posted by sundownz
There is no claim... it happened. Sean Belanger swapped out his 2x Memphis 4kws for 4x SAZ-1500Ds and gained SPL. He has a substantial battery bank @ 16 volts, so these results may not apply to a one battery type setup. As I was saying before... dB Drag classes don't = all installs. Maybe with one battery the 4kws would be louder, who knows? Sean bought his 4kws... packed them up, sold them... and paid me actual real money for the 1500Ds to replace them as he did better with them.
Feel free to ask him about it if you like... he goes by "ibanender" on the forums. Mostly frequenting the SPLBassX.com forum.
Feel free to ask him about it if you like... he goes by "ibanender" on the forums. Mostly frequenting the SPLBassX.com forum.
You're saying a sundown can put out more than that?
Also he said he was getting rid of the memphis for 8 cheaper amps not 4.
Originally Posted by Waggy
he claimed to be getting over 4800 watts of clamped power from each 4kw.
You're saying a sundown can put out more than that?
Also he said he was getting rid of the memphis for 8 cheaper amps not 4.
You're saying a sundown can put out more than that?
Also he said he was getting rid of the memphis for 8 cheaper amps not 4.
I am pretty sure that Jake has no reason to lie about it. And is it really that obscene to think it MAY outperform on a 16v system strapped with solid electrical? In this install it is possible it is better...
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Originally Posted by silverbane
Link?
I am pretty sure that Jake has no reason to lie about it. And is it really that obscene to think it MAY outperform on a 16v system strapped with solid electrical? In this install it is possible it is better...
I am pretty sure that Jake has no reason to lie about it. And is it really that obscene to think it MAY outperform on a 16v system strapped with solid electrical? In this install it is possible it is better...
and yes it is pretty obscene to think thats true because the 4kw is one of the best amps in the world with a large 16 volt bank
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Originally Posted by Waggy
he claimed to be getting over 4800 watts of clamped power from each 4kw.
You're saying a sundown can put out more than that?
Also he said he was getting rid of the memphis for 8 cheaper amps not 4.
You're saying a sundown can put out more than that?
Also he said he was getting rid of the memphis for 8 cheaper amps not 4.
As we all know things don't always happen how you originally plan. He got the first two 1500Ds 20 days after his last post in that thread, the the other two later in 2007 -- plans change.
And I'm not saying *an* SAZ-1500D can put out more than 4800 watts. Sean is saying that a PAIR of 1500Ds at 16 volts at 1/2 ohm each with his battery bank, can, yes. Otherwise, he would not have taken out the 4kws. I didn't make him buy anything, he bought them because he wanted them. How hard is that to understand?
He clamped 5677 watts in his install from a pair @ 1/2 ohm each (1 ohm strapped) with 17.9 volts rest dropping to 15.5 volts. His numbers from his truck, the same one the Memphis amps were tested in. I'd post the link but the mods PMd me about "spamming" last time... go on my forum on SSA and it is in the sticky posts "SAZ-1500D High Voltage Testing."
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Here, he posted the results on SPLBassX.com as well... I'm assuming I can post that link since it doesn't have a store attached to it like SSA:
http://www.splbassx.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=9339&hl=
See his sig:
"Four Sundown Audio SAZ-1500d's
Two RE MT15's
One S10 wangin"
Last edited by sundownz; Jul 31, 2007 at 09:16 AM.
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Originally Posted by worldind
Using the same box, I did a 146.0 flat with a pair of sundowns running at 1 ohm a piece, and 147.7 with a Z1 at .5 ohm. It's not completely fair but is food for thought nonetheless.
Originally Posted by Green Hornet
I guarantee that if the sundowns were at .5 each strapped that 1.7 difference would probably be more like .7 or even, which I actually think is pretty good for a pair of 1500d's. Whatever though, this has all been blown waaaayyyyy out of proportion. Look at the comparisons realistically, the sundowns are a consumer type amp being compared to large spl type amps, it's actually ridiculous. Even more that you guys are getting so fired up about it...lol.
