Interesting comment regarding online sales. I've been hearing that a lot lately from dealers we've been talking to............. a lot don't want to compete with online retailers.

of course they don't.........with the amount of extra overhead they have to run to be an actual store they just can't compete

rent, heat, stock, employee's, taxes, ect....all cost money ........online dealers have none of that .......

a lot of guys whine about the mark up stores make.......they just have no idea what it costs to run a storefront ....

Then when they buy off the internet they whine when thier amp/sub blows and there is no warrenty and they need to buy another one..

There are always threads from people who always rant that shops are overpriced blah blah blah, and all of these people seem to believe they have a pretty good idea on what stuff "should" cost in a shop. With their great business sense, I believe 99% of them would fail at a retail shop within 6 months. Many of the posts I have seen were from people who think that if a shop pays $100 for a speaker, then selling it for $120 gives the shop a decent profit. Many have zero clue as to what is actually involved. The cost of carrying inventory is foreign to damn near all of them(nevermind the rent/insurance/taxes/electricity/advertising). I was amazed at what the local shop spends on advertising...damn!

Knukonceptz
Alpine
Diamond Audio

I gotta be different somehow. My second list is based on my setup of old school product:
Alpine (1999)
Sony Mobile ES
Cerwin Vega
They don't make them like they used to. :(

[ June 24, 2003, 07:33 AM: Message edited by: Chadxton ]

B&O rules along with nearly all the other stuff you mentioned. Very popular in Germany.

Exactly what i was thinking ;)

Well first of all---- Fosgate of course, like c,mon, really, youd have to be an idiot not to carry their product, plus you get dragster,and all their wires, really its a no-brainer

secondly, JBL, and im surprised that nobody else posted harmon as a pick, like that crown amp, thats pretty cool, plus the overall quality

and last but not least pyramid! simply the best! gotta love pyramid, or maybe prestige. always on the cutting edge

OMG let's just have all of us carry this mass marketed mediocre company that everyone knows. :rolleyes: I'll limit myself to their decks and connecting accessories. Mind you many of their old-school products of amps were very good.

JBL maybe for home or pro audio.

LOL, I like your humour, guy. [img]graemlins/thumb.gif[/img] It's all good.

[ June 24, 2003, 11:45 AM: Message edited by: Chadxton ]

OMG let's just have all of us carry this mass marketed mediocre company that everyone knows. :rolleyes: I'll limit myself to their decks and connecting accessories. Mind you many of their old-school products of amps were very good.

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LOL, I like your humour, guy. [img]graemlins/thumb.gif[/img] It's all good. </font>[/QUOTE]The local shop still deals RF, but they don't keep the decks in stock(they are ridiculously overpriced), and the shop also doesn't carry punch amps anymore, they carry the power amps(BB has the punch stuff anyway). There have been discussions as to why stay with a brand that has zero loyalty to the retailers who helped establish the brand in the area in the first place(and pathetic protection against rf stuff being d out online). I surely wouldn't feel the need to carry RF, and it isn't a matter of the quality of the product.