lol.. its so true.. even on here i've seen alot of people talk talk and talk and run thier mouths about stuff, and find out later it was a total lie [img]smile.gif[/img] im not pointing fingers at anyone ;)

All I have to say is that Car Audio, is 80/20~
80% install and 20% equipment . A good installer can make any speaker or amp or head unit sound amazing. and thats a fact

Some of the higher ones are either too full of themselves to do the simple stuff or have quit to find a real job that actually pays money. I don't know of hardly any installers that can truly "retire" and still pay bills and put food on the table.

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who qualifies you to judge what a shop does
you should do your homework and not just brush it all black

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Who brushed it all black ?!?!?! What post are you reading!??! And trust me, I'm no expert, but I'm qualified to judge a POS install as I do it all the time for IASCA. Maybe you should do your homework before you open your pie-hole.

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all people who work for a living start out at the bottom did you start out midway or the top

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That's not the point. If you actually read the post before shooting your mouth off, you would have noticed the point about supervision. The point was a "lack" of supervision for rookies. I wouldn't want my car worked on by an unsupervised high school rookie. I've fixed enough of those car in past to know how scarey some people's skills are. Are you one of those people ?!?!?!? </font>[/QUOTE]the only part that i see is your making a generalized statement to how the industry runs
it may happen in some stores
i would say your making a demeaning statment towards installers
#1 if you our your buddies did your homework you would know who puts out good work and who dosn't
seasoned installers can do ****ty work just like what you call high school installer do
i have had what you call high school installers
some i trusted and some i got rid of
theres good and bad everywhere
your point is?

pinhead, not flaming, but i hope you dont enter into any SQ comps in the near future.

if so, this arguement is not going to help your score with the Judges

hint hint

[ June 27, 2003, 08:48 PM: Message edited by: bing ]

^ Are you insinuating that Tom would risk his reputation as a fair an knowledgable IASCA trained judge just to unjustly penalize someone who happens to share an opposing view to his?

That wasn't very nice. :(

alpine for head:best pre amp voltage
phoenix for amps:load em down you know!
old school crank subs:awsome spl im the right box of course.

If you want best pre out voltage, wouldn't Eclipse be a better choice? I wish the local shop would carry PG though. That would be a good line for them to check out I think.