GEM-SEM PROBLEMS
08-30-2003, 07:00 PM
#11
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Originally posted by Fat Whacker:
Like I said in my first post, have you tired to test the amp yourself on something else but your system? If you ask, any shop will bench test an amp for you for little or no cost at all. I am sure you have friends with systems, get them to install the amp in a system that the know 100% that works. I am not saying your wiring is the problem for sure, but if I were in Vegas, thats where my money would ride.
And as far as the whole pawn shop thing goes...might as well go steal it yourself. Thanx for supporting the car audio industry.
Like I said in my first post, have you tired to test the amp yourself on something else but your system? If you ask, any shop will bench test an amp for you for little or no cost at all. I am sure you have friends with systems, get them to install the amp in a system that the know 100% that works. I am not saying your wiring is the problem for sure, but if I were in Vegas, thats where my money would ride.
And as far as the whole pawn shop thing goes...might as well go steal it yourself. Thanx for supporting the car audio industry.
I've been to certifed radio had a dianostic done on the amp they said they had to send it back to factory tobe fixed.
Now I sent it back they say nothing wrong, with it.
I get the amp back put it in my car same problem
I goto certifed radio They go over all my wiring try another sub and even tried a different ground
and they say its the AMP without question and I got it in writting
So now im out 20 bucks on dianostic and 25 shippin there 2 day service...
the box they sent it back to me in another story
its about 20 times bigger than the amp and you could throw it on the freeway and it would be fine... I guess i cant complain that they packaged it so well but i think it was excessive.
oh and shippin was 35 back to me i believe...
OH AND DID I MENTION THE AMP STILL DOESNT WORK?
[ August 30, 2003, 08:03 PM: Message edited by: 67impala ]
08-30-2003, 07:13 PM
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now i totally feel for you and no one can point a finger. but you have to see it from both sides. first thing is if you don't buy it from an authorized dealer, how the heck can you expect them to treat you like it is a major priority. I work at the service center for Phoenix gold, and we've encountered many amps that come in muilitple times for the same problems. each time we send them back as no fault found. we test them for days sometimes, and no fault found. they get back to the store and bloody thing is dead. so then we get it back again, and once again. no fault found. in the end after trying it for multiple days, the cause is finally found and is said to be fault of the installer. gee could it be that they hooked it up to a dead sub in front of you. just to show you that it's dead so you can buy another one from them. educate your self so that this doesn't happen to you again. This goes for all of you. just because some one tells you is broken , doesn't always make it true. Unless you do the testing your self, then you have to rely on other peoples opinions. Was the guy who tested your amp certified? did you even bother to ask. you probably talked to a salesman. an uncertified salesman. your call on whether you take it to someone who knows what they're doing or some one who says they know what they're doing. good luckand i hope that you find a solution to your problem
08-30-2003, 07:30 PM
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Originally posted by pat28ca:
now i totally feel for you and no one can point a finger. but you have to see it from both sides. first thing is if you don't buy it from an authorized dealer, how the heck can you expect them to treat you like it is a major priority. I work at the service center for Phoenix gold, and we've encountered many amps that come in muilitple times for the same problems. each time we send them back as no fault found. we test them for days sometimes, and no fault found. they get back to the store and bloody thing is dead. so then we get it back again, and once again. no fault found. in the end after trying it for multiple days, the cause is finally found and is said to be fault of the installer. gee could it be that they hooked it up to a dead sub in front of you. just to show you that it's dead so you can buy another one from them. educate your self so that this doesn't happen to you again. This goes for all of you. just because some one tells you is broken , doesn't always make it true. Unless you do the testing your self, then you have to rely on other peoples opinions. Was the guy who tested your amp certified? did you even bother to ask. you probably talked to a salesman. an uncertified salesman. your call on whether you take it to someone who knows what they're doing or some one who says they know what they're doing. good luckand i hope that you find a solution to your problem
now i totally feel for you and no one can point a finger. but you have to see it from both sides. first thing is if you don't buy it from an authorized dealer, how the heck can you expect them to treat you like it is a major priority. I work at the service center for Phoenix gold, and we've encountered many amps that come in muilitple times for the same problems. each time we send them back as no fault found. we test them for days sometimes, and no fault found. they get back to the store and bloody thing is dead. so then we get it back again, and once again. no fault found. in the end after trying it for multiple days, the cause is finally found and is said to be fault of the installer. gee could it be that they hooked it up to a dead sub in front of you. just to show you that it's dead so you can buy another one from them. educate your self so that this doesn't happen to you again. This goes for all of you. just because some one tells you is broken , doesn't always make it true. Unless you do the testing your self, then you have to rely on other peoples opinions. Was the guy who tested your amp certified? did you even bother to ask. you probably talked to a salesman. an uncertified salesman. your call on whether you take it to someone who knows what they're doing or some one who says they know what they're doing. good luckand i hope that you find a solution to your problem
With the car runnin
I got 14.20 volts constant doesnt flinch right at the terminal on the amp.
My remote is a constant 13.50volts
the muti meter says sub is at 2ohms and i know i wired it to 2 ohms so its at 2 ohms other amps work fine tried different grounds everything checks out.
AMP plays at low volume but goes into protection when its turned up..
The shop when i frist had it tested said it needed tobe fixed i paid them 30 dollars and they said they needed to send it back to Gem-Sen tobe fixed.
I was already in touch with Gem-Sen so i delt with them directly.
Now yes it was under a rush thats find i offered to pay more money they refused and said dont worry about it we will be able to look at it and get it back to you in time for your warrantee i wasnt gunna send it in if i wasnt gunna make my warantee... I was garanteed i would have it back in time.
THE AMP IS ****ED
AND I DIDNT TELL THEM SOME BULL**** STORY AND TRY AND GET A WARANTEE I TOLD EM OUTRIGHT I WILL PAY FOR ANY COSTS! AND TOLD THEM WHERE I BOUGHT IT AND THAT I HAD TO MAKE A WARANTEE AND I WOULD PAY EXTRA TO HAVE THEM LOOK AT IT SOONER...
MY AMP IS BROKEN...
08-30-2003, 07:36 PM
#14
I buy stuff from pawn shops all the time. Just be sure to test the amps/subs/etc befor you buy em. I do that everytime I buy something from a pawnshop.
So far without problem I have bought..
RF 300S
US accoustics 4060
Alpine eq 3217
Pioneer cd-635
lanzar 420
from pawnshops.
If you would like some help I could check out the amp for you and maybe help find the problem as I am in Edmonton also.
X
So far without problem I have bought..
RF 300S
US accoustics 4060
Alpine eq 3217
Pioneer cd-635
lanzar 420
from pawnshops.
If you would like some help I could check out the amp for you and maybe help find the problem as I am in Edmonton also.
X
08-30-2003, 08:08 PM
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i first of all would like to say to take a pill
is you amp rated to do 2 ohms
most amps aren't and even if they are they usually do not do any more power
have you tried a 4 ohm speaker that is the load most amps are recoomended to run on
is you amp rated to do 2 ohms
most amps aren't and even if they are they usually do not do any more power
have you tried a 4 ohm speaker that is the load most amps are recoomended to run on
08-30-2003, 08:27 PM
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Originally posted by pinhead:
i first of all would like to say to take a pill
is you amp rated to do 2 ohms
most amps aren't and even if they are they usually do not do any more power
have you tried a 4 ohm speaker that is the load most amps are recoomended to run on
i first of all would like to say to take a pill
is you amp rated to do 2 ohms
most amps aren't and even if they are they usually do not do any more power
have you tried a 4 ohm speaker that is the load most amps are recoomended to run on
I'VE WIRED MY SUB TO 2 & 8 ohms And the sub at the certified radio was wired to 4 ohms was a sony sub in box from the showroom..
AND YES MY ****ING AMP IS RATED AT 2 ohms
ITS A MONO BLOCK AMP
200rmsx1 @4ohms
400rmsx1 @2ohms
....
TAKE A PILL? YOU DIDNT SPEND 60 dollars on shippin and 20 on dianostic fee for total of 80 dollars for them to send u back a broken amp...
AND 30 on a dianostic fee locally
so 80+30 is 110
i bought the amp for 180 ok? see a problem? the amp is worth 180us on ebay
SO DO I PAY ANOTHER 60 BUCKS FOR SHIPPIN AND 20 for another dianostic fee and then repair costs?
IS THIS AMP WORTH IT?
Kicker kx 400.1 ?
I think im at the point where im not gunna spend another cent on this amp...
Absolutly nothing is wrong with the wiring so please just ****ing discount that from anything the ****ing amp is ****ed end of story.
08-30-2003, 08:31 PM
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Originally posted by Xiph0id:
I buy stuff from pawn shops all the time. Just be sure to test the amps/subs/etc befor you buy em. I do that everytime I buy something from a pawnshop.
So far without problem I have bought..
RF 300S
US accoustics 4060
Alpine eq 3217
Pioneer cd-635
lanzar 420
from pawnshops.
If you would like some help I could check out the amp for you and maybe help find the problem as I am in Edmonton also.
X
I buy stuff from pawn shops all the time. Just be sure to test the amps/subs/etc befor you buy em. I do that everytime I buy something from a pawnshop.
So far without problem I have bought..
RF 300S
US accoustics 4060
Alpine eq 3217
Pioneer cd-635
lanzar 420
from pawnshops.
If you would like some help I could check out the amp for you and maybe help find the problem as I am in Edmonton also.
X
i think im gunna get a alpine mrd-m500 from a budy for 400 and get rid of the kicker amp...
cause if im gunna spend 400 on an amp its gunna be a good ****in one...
08-30-2003, 11:06 PM
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Originally posted by 67impala:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by pinhead:
i first of all would like to say to take a pill
is you amp rated to do 2 ohms
most amps aren't and even if they are they usually do not do any more power
have you tried a 4 ohm speaker that is the load most amps are recoomended to run on
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by pinhead:
i first of all would like to say to take a pill
is you amp rated to do 2 ohms
most amps aren't and even if they are they usually do not do any more power
have you tried a 4 ohm speaker that is the load most amps are recoomended to run on
I'VE WIRED MY SUB TO 2 & 8 ohms And the sub at the certified radio was wired to 4 ohms was a sony sub in box from the showroom..
AND YES MY ****ING AMP IS RATED AT 2 ohms
ITS A MONO BLOCK AMP
200rmsx1 @4ohms
400rmsx1 @2ohms
....
TAKE A PILL? YOU DIDNT SPEND 60 dollars on shippin and 20 on dianostic fee for total of 80 dollars for them to send u back a broken amp...
AND 30 on a dianostic fee locally
so 80+30 is 110
i bought the amp for 180 ok? see a problem? the amp is worth 180us on ebay
SO DO I PAY ANOTHER 60 BUCKS FOR SHIPPIN AND 20 for another dianostic fee and then repair costs?
IS THIS AMP WORTH IT?
Kicker kx 400.1 ?
I think im at the point where im not gunna spend another cent on this amp...
Absolutly nothing is wrong with the wiring so please just ****ing discount that from anything the ****ing amp is ****ed end of story. </font>[/QUOTE]OK now time to pull rank. First off, I urge you to stop blowing a gasket at everyone that replies to your thread, because that isn't going to get you anywhere. Remember, its not our fault you CHOOSE to buy an amp from a pawn shop. ITS NOT OUR FAULT. STOP YELLING AT US!
Second, if you keep going on like this, all its going to get you is more grief from members.
Frankley I am getting sick of your short fuse. Take pinheads advise, take a pill and get over it. You bought a dud amp, spent more money to ship it all over who knows where and find out it still have the same problem "in your system". Do us all a favor and quit ranting and raving, suck it up and move on. Nuff said. Thread closed.
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