hey i think most people are unaware of what goes on in the industy
when do you see dodge getting deals on chevys
or the used car dealer buying direct from chevy at less than what a chevy dealer gets
it all driven by greed

 

Pinhead,
This is starting to sound more and more like a rant.

I have worked at a speciality retailer, and now for a larger internet dealer. You make it sound like alot of these manufacturers have alterior motives (screw the small guy) when they have blowouts. If you are a dealer, most vendors make the products available to everyone, at the better prices for more quantity (power of buying in bulk from a motivated seller). The manufacturers typically send out fliers to all the reps who pass it on to all the dealers.

MTX got rid of the 6000 and 8000 series subs. So they blew them out. If a dealer was sitting on too much inventory, is he going to get burned? Yes. Same goes for just about anything consumer product that changes annually. New Mustang come out, do you think the prices might drop on the old ones, maybe even increased rebates? You bet. That is how it works when you have too much inventory (car audio is a business like any other, if products don't sell well, they slash the prices to get them out the door, you don't want 2003's dog competing against a 2004 model that has more features per dollar compared to the previous models.

Every vendor I have dealt with at one point or another had a dog they cut the price to get rid of. That is what you do, nobody has perfect information or the manufacturers would sell the last 2003 model right before CES and would ship new products as orders are placed at CES (which doesn't happen for the most part).

Juan

 

one eye im not refering to year end blow out
and im not talking about deals offered to everybody
this maybe something that you have never seen
here in canada it done and i know it for a fact

 

I will tell you right now, the market in the US has about 10 times as many potential consumers. Unless we are talking about Canadian brands, most of the stuff probably goes through the US branches first.

I'm curious, what are you upset about? That someone has the ability to buy hundreds of radios at a price better than you? Or that they aren't even offering you the deal (even though the rep and everyone involved knows you can't swallow that much gear anyway)?

Juan

 

no one eye im refering to product that is sold by the distributors (japanese radio's) so that they can meet there quarterly target
they don't do this when sales are good
this product is sold to one person who's sole purpose is to make the product go away
this product then ends up in pawnshops
other stereo shops
sold on ebay
or unathorized internet dealers
the beef is that this product is sold by the manufactures to nonauthorized dealers
that are in the same service area they are taking care of
the reason i know this is i know some of the people who liquidate this product as in its offered to me for less than i pay for it
the prices this stuff is sold for is downright stupid and undermines the legitimate sales of legitimate dealers
this product which goed through two more hands ends up being sold to whoever for less than i can get it for

and as i've said i have confronted the manufacture that do this and they denied it until i named names

[ March 22, 2004, 06:36 PM: Message edited by: pinhead ]

 

Just so everyone knows I am good to my word, here is a copy of 1 of the many letters I get daily(that I refuse)

Hello I am an ebay power seller, and I am working to start my own audio shop. I would please like to the requirments to become a reseller for your company.. I am located in NY and have a valid business tax ID Thank you for your time.

I have omited his name.

I guess thats how they do get there product

 

Man, I hate to say this, but you don't get it. Manufacturers don't sell directly to unauthorized sources. They sell to distributors (they do that on purpose so the manufacturer can claim they aren't responsible). Then they pressure the distributors (who aren't owned by the parent company) to move tons of boxes. I know that all the Japanese guys have quotas they need to make and they do what they have to do to move products. Because the markup is so high up their compared to the US, they can get away with doing what you describe. Again, the distributor can break even (keep in mind they have rebates for hitting their numbers, so factors those in, and they might even lose money on the sales so they can get the bigger rebate number (and stay in the manufacturers good graces).

This industry has been shady for a number of years (all the way back to the days of Audio magazine selling grey market through ads in the back of the magazine) in the 1970s. Its nothing new.

Juan

 

Hate to jack this thread, but OldOneEye, have you sold that Punch 40 and 60 yet? I have PM'd you a couple of times now..... [img]smile.gif[/img]