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03-20-2004, 10:34 AM

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Dereck Waller

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Yeah, I know, I am all about the solen catalogue, I have had a spool of silver solder lying around here for awhile as well as some WBT RCA ends that I wouldn't mind using one day.

03-20-2004, 10:45 AM

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defro

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Originally posted by DWVW:
I The only reason why you would pick active over passive is for ease of tuning. Don't get me wrong, I have used an all active front stage many times, but I know I could build a better sounding passive setup.

iwould pick digital over both, active suffers from the same issues as passive, i dont know why you would try to manipulate and undesirable problem(phase shift) into a possibly marginal adavantage(an unlikely one at that)when you could eliminate that as a problem (passive x-over phase issues)with digital, not active which is what the original post was asking, that was my point, i have built alot of passive xovers over the years, and experimented with changes to them and it was cool to test and listen for changes, besides its fun just dickin around, playin with you cars stereo but i always hoped for and inexpensive digital method and now that its here i couldnt be happier(and not because its easy)setting a digital xover is complicated as well, and can take many hours of listening and changing, just like comparing passives

03-21-2004, 10:24 AM

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platinum300m

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Well, I got off my lazy butt yesterday and rewired my components to run full active. All I have to say that it was worth it. My mids and tweets play alot louder, even after turning down the gains. There seems to be alot more punch and detail coming from the mids. I'm hearing some detail that I've never heard before from my tweets.

Just a small problem. Now I have to spend countless hours to eq the mids and tweets again. Also I notice during female vocals, when they sing any lyrics with a word ending in a "S", it sounds like "SSSSSSS". It's like a long ringing "S" sound. I know I can fix that with the eq. Do you guys know what freq. I should tone down?

What thanx for all your input and help guys, especially "Defro"

03-21-2004, 10:41 AM

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Seahag

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10k or 5k

seems to be up in the air

03-21-2004, 10:44 AM

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defro13

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no problem, you have seen for yourself the advantage of digital x-over over passive, remember, what you have is digital not active. big difference, using the digital eq in your deck will also not give you the phase problems assiciated with non digital eq, happy tuning

03-21-2004, 10:58 AM

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PEI330Ci

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For anyone building passive X.O.s:

Just forgot to mention bus bar wire. It's the stuff used to link all the components together. Use 16 awg or larger, and if you can find it and afford it...silver plated 6N copper.

Dereck, when you get serious about building your passives, give me a shout. My Dad has a some stuff he might be willing to sell. When I was rumaging around his lab last week, I saw bulk packages of various value 1% resistors still vacuum sealed and spools of 14 awg silver plated 6N bus bar wire. (along with lots of other treasure.

Adam