what brand speaker wire is good?
06-01-2005, 11:37 AM
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ettore, skin effect takes place at freq other than 20k. i have takes phoenix gold qs162 out of a car and replaced it with m10s, and there was a difference, like adam said some people just arent capable of hearing the difference, others can, and dukk, many people have stated before that they can hear differences in wire
sac. you last paragraph couldnt have benn said any better
sac. you last paragraph couldnt have benn said any better
06-01-2005, 12:34 PM
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Oh I would never argue that people can hear the difference in wire. They just seem unable to prove it in a formal double blind test. That, I have no explanation for.
I threw out a fun response earlier but I carefully select wire for my car and have never merely pulled generic fare off the 'shop spool'.
I threw out a fun response earlier but I carefully select wire for my car and have never merely pulled generic fare off the 'shop spool'.
06-01-2005, 12:49 PM
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Please excuse someone as uneducated as I am in the field of conductors... but isn't it possible to hook a scope or some sort of test equipment to see exactly how a signal is passed across a wire?..
If the signal is the exact same coming across 2 different wires, wouldn't that basically mean they sound the same? [img]graemlins/dunno.gif[/img]
If the signal is the exact same coming across 2 different wires, wouldn't that basically mean they sound the same? [img]graemlins/dunno.gif[/img]
06-01-2005, 01:07 PM
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There are more senses available to us than the five basic ones.
If anyone has all the answers as to how the universe is put together, they aren't on this board.
As far as the purity and signal passing capabilities of copper, well better wire costs more. There are home audiophiles that spend ten grand on their speaker cable...lot's for sale on E-bay too, so maybe they came to their senses(all five?).
If a few electrons don't go astray, amongnst the billions interacting in your wire is it worth something, even if your lousy ears can't detect it? Just cause you can't sense it, don't mean it ain't there!
Now how bout this....is ultra expensive 16ga wire better than $2/ft 8ga for speaker wire?
If anyone has all the answers as to how the universe is put together, they aren't on this board.
As far as the purity and signal passing capabilities of copper, well better wire costs more. There are home audiophiles that spend ten grand on their speaker cable...lot's for sale on E-bay too, so maybe they came to their senses(all five?).
If a few electrons don't go astray, amongnst the billions interacting in your wire is it worth something, even if your lousy ears can't detect it? Just cause you can't sense it, don't mean it ain't there!
Now how bout this....is ultra expensive 16ga wire better than $2/ft 8ga for speaker wire?
06-01-2005, 01:17 PM
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Just a heads up to a thread I made that may bring the two sides of this thread closer together maybe?
http://www.canadiancaraudio.com/cgi/...c&f=8&t=000720
And Jordy - physics/scientific experiments and high end audio usually have little to do with eachother
http://www.canadiancaraudio.com/cgi/...c&f=8&t=000720
And Jordy - physics/scientific experiments and high end audio usually have little to do with eachother
06-01-2005, 01:17 PM
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I too find it funny that there is not one single blind test in which someone (anyone) has actually heard a difference.
As soon as people can see what wire is being used they instantly hear a difference.
I have drawn my own conclusions from this, as well as from my own blind and sighted tests. I know what to listen for, I know how to listen and I have very good ears. Yet I have never been able to hear a difference, even on high end gear.
As soon as people can see what wire is being used they instantly hear a difference.
I have drawn my own conclusions from this, as well as from my own blind and sighted tests. I know what to listen for, I know how to listen and I have very good ears. Yet I have never been able to hear a difference, even on high end gear.
06-01-2005, 02:28 PM
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Doing a blind test to determine something as esoteric as the subltle differences between wire would be very dificult to set up...the changes in mood, state of mind, and the pressure of the test would be very inconsistant. Buy some really good cable, use them for a month or so, then go back to the cheap stuff....maybe you'll miss it, maybe not.
Most people can't hear the difference between amps, let alone wire.
And how do you know what to listen for, if you've nver heard the difference?
Most people can't hear the difference between amps, let alone wire.
And how do you know what to listen for, if you've nver heard the difference?
