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Old Feb 1, 2011 | 10:52 PM
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This is the calculation I use to figure out where some of my problem areas will be. I just used excel to make it look neat. Any where you see a the same of very similar frequency in each coloum is where problem are likely to happen. Its an easy calculation.

1130 (speed of sound) / 2x room length in feet

the first set of numbers are the room dimensions (16.05ft, 11ft, 7ft).

Each mode is simply a mulitple of that frequency.

The worst shapped room would be a cube, because all the modes would be same. This would cause serious peeks and nulls. An ideal room will have no same length walls or walls that are multiples of each other. Odd shaped rooms would be even better, but more rooms are rectangular, so I assuming that much.

My room with use angles and coloum protrusions that I will get into on a later date.
ok great, thank you, but as you can see, my room is not rectangular, how would I calculate that?
Old Feb 2, 2011 | 10:40 AM
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Lets see some pics of what you are working with !!
Old Feb 2, 2011 | 05:12 PM
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In a basement sound room the ceiling is probably the weak link acoustically. It is low and that makes sound issues and when you crank it the sound will leak upstairs through the floor boards. The foundation walls will be solid but reflective so it is a good location overall. good old inexpensive fiberglass roll insulation is good at stopping the noise from leaking upstairs and insulation in the corners would be a good bass trap as needed.
Old Feb 2, 2011 | 05:35 PM
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ok great, thank you, but as you can see, my room is not rectangular, how would I calculate that?
Your room is rectangular from what I can see. The bulk head is of little concern and the electrical is pretty much invisible to low frequencies.
Adding bass traps will help your problem. Rugs and wall treatment will help everywhere else.
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does it look like I could cut a portion of drywall in the electrical room and put the insulation there to make a bass trap?

I will try to get pics up in some time... maybe even tonight
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Originally Posted by JohnVroom
In a basement sound room the ceiling is probably the weak link acoustically. It is low and that makes sound issues and when you crank it the sound will leak upstairs through the floor boards. The foundation walls will be solid but reflective so it is a good location overall. good old inexpensive fiberglass roll insulation is good at stopping the noise from leaking upstairs and insulation in the corners would be a good bass trap as needed.
Soundproofing a room is a whole different topic. Its fairly easy to do but would add to the overall cost of my room. My ceiling is also a little on the low sideband to properly isolate the ceiling would take up valuable head room. Neither my wife or my self are concerned with sound bleeding into the room above, so I won't be taking much about soundproofing in this thread. If anyone has any questions on how to do it, please ask me and I will do what I can to answer.
Old Feb 2, 2011 | 05:56 PM
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does it look like I could cut a portion of drywall in the electrical room and put the insulation there to make a bass trap?

I will try to get pics up in some time... maybe even tonight
Adding absorption will help. A simple way to make a bass trap is to cut roxul into large triangles, stack them on top of each other and place them into the rooms corners. The bigger you make it the easier it is to absorb low frequencies. Corners are yor enemy!
Old Feb 2, 2011 | 06:19 PM
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So as you can see from the chart, I'm going to have some issues in the 100hz range. By adding sufficient absorption, I should help minimize this. I will also be using an angled bulkhead that will also act as a bass trap.
I cannot predict every problem frequency, I don't have the means to calculate how all the sound waves will propagate. This is enough information for me to plan from.
I will try to post some pics of the framing later today. Ther isn't anything acoustic about it, but its required work.

Originally Posted by fozzz
This is the calculation I use to figure out where some of my problem areas will be. I just used excel to make it look neat. Any where you see a the same of very similar frequency in each coloum is where problem are likely to happen. Its an easy calculation.

1130 (speed of sound) / 2x room length in feet

the first set of numbers are the room dimensions (16.05ft, 11ft, 7ft).

Each mode is simply a mulitple of that frequency.

The worst shapped room would be a cube, because all the modes would be same. This would cause serious peeks and nulls. An ideal room will have no same length walls or walls that are multiples of each other. Odd shaped rooms would be even better, but more rooms are rectangular, so I assuming that much.

My room with use angles and coloum protrusions that I will get into on a later date.
Old Feb 2, 2011 | 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by fozzz
Adding absorption will help. A simple way to make a bass trap is to cut roxul into large triangles, stack them on top of each other and place them into the rooms corners. The bigger you make it the easier it is to absorb low frequencies. Corners are yor enemy!
when I did my basement reno I did full sound insulation. the only thing I did not do is resilient channel. but I can tell you when my 5 yr old daughter runs upstairs in the kitchen, the sound is tremendously decreased compared to before the sound insulation.( I didnt want to loose another 1/2" of ceiling height) as Im sure you (fozz) dont want to either

I can also watch a movie at a very reasonable( LOUD) volume and the rest of the family stays asleep

well im off to take some pictures with my phone and load them shortly.
Old Feb 2, 2011 | 07:49 PM
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ok well here it is so far
dont mind the mess, im still renovating




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