In-dash screens - loud fan?
I hated my Alpine 9835 deck so much it only lasted a week in my car and I sold it for $200 less than I paid for it.
I looked at the Alpine screens but after the 9835 I decided to go with the 7500DVD. I am extremely happy with it.
I looked at the Alpine screens but after the 9835 I decided to go with the 7500DVD. I am extremely happy with it.
You're right, Yuli, the IVA-D300 is a decent piece but it's more similar to the Pioneer AVH-P6600DVD. The AVH-P7500DVD comes with Dolby Digital/DTS decoding, Dolby Pro-Logic II, 5 channel MOSFET 50 amplifier, 6 channel 6.5 volt pre-outs, multi-channel auto equalization, time alignment, DVD audio playback, TV tuner, detachable faceplate & background graphics/screensavers. All these included features make it, in my mind, the "coolest".
Any way, that's why there's more than one brand in the market becuase if something was "the best" there'd be no reason to buy anything else!
Any way, that's why there's more than one brand in the market becuase if something was "the best" there'd be no reason to buy anything else!
Hey Hardwrkr,
Who told you it has 5 volt pre-outs? Pioneer doesn't make anything with 5 volt outputs - only the standard 2.2 volt on entry-level CD players, 4 volt for mid-level stuff & 6.5 volt on top end units? And I agree, "it's still the coolest"!
Who told you it has 5 volt pre-outs? Pioneer doesn't make anything with 5 volt outputs - only the standard 2.2 volt on entry-level CD players, 4 volt for mid-level stuff & 6.5 volt on top end units? And I agree, "it's still the coolest"!
I was choosing between the two and i went with the alpine. one of the reasons b/c pioneer would not warranty/could not 'duplicate' the problem i had with my 6500 so that turn me away from pioneer tv's.
and yes the pioneer screen unit itself can overheat!!
yes pioneer does have all the nice sound features, but there isnt much Dolby'ing i can do on a stock 4 speaker set up so i didnt care for those features anyways. Alpine has some crazy features as well, which i dont even know how to use or what they do, but all the SQ guys go crazy over them.....to me they are useless.
Pioneer decks are VERY picky when u try to play a VCD in it, it wont read VCD half the time. My alpine reads them all.
i love alpine touch screen capability, not just pre defined feilds on the screen like pioneer but rather the whole screen is interactive, and i mean the whole screen. the unit didnt evne come with a remote b/c u dont need one. but i got one anyways.
alpine remotes are much stronger than pioneer ones, my alpine works through the tints of a closed window away from the vehicle, pioneer could not do that, which sucks if u try to use it for an spl comp.
both pioneer decks i had went crazy after some spl'ing in the jeep. same happened to my buddy's unit. as soon as u start doin over 145 the deck goes insane. it wouldnt turn off, it wouldnt let me adjust the volume, it would not accept the signal from the remote, it pretty much would go out of control, the screen itself would shut off as well. Its like the deck is off but its still spinning the cd and sending the signal to your amps. Now imagine this happening when u are outside of the vehicle and play your system at full till and u loose control of your deck....$5000 woth of subs and amps can be destroyed all in one shot. the only way to turn off the deck would be to turn off the car. this is the problem pioneer could not 'duplicate' when i gave it for warranty. they claimed it was my faulty harness........yah right. two diff decks same problem AND my buddy had same deck and identical problem with his when his spl went over 145 or so. b/c of this problem he lost a pair of $2000 subs, he was outside of the car while tesing for spl, gave it a full out burp and when he tried to stop/pause the deck it would not accept any commands from the remote or even the face plate.......his subs turned into paper weight in the matter of 30 seconds.
it took pioneer 3 weeks (and i live next to their service center here in richmond hill so there is no shipping time, i dropped it off in person) to tell me that they cant fix it!!!!!
i sold the deck the way it was to some guy and guess what????? same problem, he tried to warranty it and again pioneer sais they cant duplicate the problem and just blamed his faulty wiring.....mean while this was in a totally diff vehicle with a brand new pioneer harness (i kept my old one and it was NOT faulty)
[ December 10, 2004, 12:00 AM: Message edited by: Father Yuli ]
and yes the pioneer screen unit itself can overheat!!
yes pioneer does have all the nice sound features, but there isnt much Dolby'ing i can do on a stock 4 speaker set up so i didnt care for those features anyways. Alpine has some crazy features as well, which i dont even know how to use or what they do, but all the SQ guys go crazy over them.....to me they are useless.
Pioneer decks are VERY picky when u try to play a VCD in it, it wont read VCD half the time. My alpine reads them all.
i love alpine touch screen capability, not just pre defined feilds on the screen like pioneer but rather the whole screen is interactive, and i mean the whole screen. the unit didnt evne come with a remote b/c u dont need one. but i got one anyways.
alpine remotes are much stronger than pioneer ones, my alpine works through the tints of a closed window away from the vehicle, pioneer could not do that, which sucks if u try to use it for an spl comp.
both pioneer decks i had went crazy after some spl'ing in the jeep. same happened to my buddy's unit. as soon as u start doin over 145 the deck goes insane. it wouldnt turn off, it wouldnt let me adjust the volume, it would not accept the signal from the remote, it pretty much would go out of control, the screen itself would shut off as well. Its like the deck is off but its still spinning the cd and sending the signal to your amps. Now imagine this happening when u are outside of the vehicle and play your system at full till and u loose control of your deck....$5000 woth of subs and amps can be destroyed all in one shot. the only way to turn off the deck would be to turn off the car. this is the problem pioneer could not 'duplicate' when i gave it for warranty. they claimed it was my faulty harness........yah right. two diff decks same problem AND my buddy had same deck and identical problem with his when his spl went over 145 or so. b/c of this problem he lost a pair of $2000 subs, he was outside of the car while tesing for spl, gave it a full out burp and when he tried to stop/pause the deck it would not accept any commands from the remote or even the face plate.......his subs turned into paper weight in the matter of 30 seconds.
it took pioneer 3 weeks (and i live next to their service center here in richmond hill so there is no shipping time, i dropped it off in person) to tell me that they cant fix it!!!!!
i sold the deck the way it was to some guy and guess what????? same problem, he tried to warranty it and again pioneer sais they cant duplicate the problem and just blamed his faulty wiring.....mean while this was in a totally diff vehicle with a brand new pioneer harness (i kept my old one and it was NOT faulty)
[ December 10, 2004, 12:00 AM: Message edited by: Father Yuli ]
well i had the 6500 as well. and like yuli's mine went messed up HARD at 150db. actually the f-in unit itself was the reason my treo subs blew up!! the deck went into death match mode basicly (could not stop the burp) and by the time i managemed to get into my truck, and turn off the POWER (12 volt) to the deck it was too late. i had smoke coming out of my box! well the unit itself did not suffer any damage, but my equip did. stupid thing. i dunno what happened. but not an SPL deck, that's for sure.
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First I've heard of this and i've seen the Pioneer screens in some loud cars as well. Interesting. Hopefully I won't have that problem.
And Pioneer Guy, the two best units Pioneer makes have 5v preouts.
The 7500DVD
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pn...etailComponent
and the DEQ-P9 part of the P9 combo
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pn...etailComponent
And Pioneer Guy, the two best units Pioneer makes have 5v preouts.
The 7500DVD
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pn...etailComponent
and the DEQ-P9 part of the P9 combo
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pn...etailComponent
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