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Old Dec 8, 2005 | 07:54 PM
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Guns owned and registered are not the problem,it is smuggled guns, used more so for crimes it's like the old no more of one thing ban it but you still haven't fixed the problem theory! I am actually 29 and have never voted in my life but thanks to the laws these miss educated monkeys are proposing in ontario and canada as a whole, I am planning to rally and make my vote count this year along with anyone willing to listen to me talk about what I feel on these topics! Dammit censorship, gun laws, gun prohibiting, animal banning, etc etc what the heck is this, communism? I say out with the liberals and I hope you people agree, what is next you must be monitored while using your computer at all times via web cam due to the online crime rate? Man I saw that commercial for hand gun prohibiting and man it p???ed me off! If they take one more thing i care about away ohhh man!If i can help it down ya go! [img]graemlins/wavey.gif[/img]

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Old Dec 8, 2005 | 08:00 PM
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Take everything away and people will just kill eachother with their bare hands! Ohh let's see there is an idea let's just cut off all the hands of all canadians then the attack rate should fall, get an f-ing clue!!!!!!!!!
Old Dec 8, 2005 | 08:12 PM
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No, don't you see, there was no violence before guns, people lived in perfect harmony

I've pretty much decided, I would absolutely hate to do this, but I will leave this country before my civil rights are so flagerantly violated.

Martin and the Libs have become utopianists... social engineers with a vision of perfection. I wish they would just shut up and go back to running the damn country. I know it's hard to get people that don't own guns to understand, but this is a civil rights issue. Just wait, the next time a certain right is socially unpopular and the government tries to take it away, it could one that you treasure.

The Liberal strategy for making the streets of Canada's cities safer begins with banning all car modification and getting tougher on crime. Paul Martin announced the proposed ban in a troubled Toronto neighbourhood on Thursday.

"I've come to the conclusion that significant change is needed. I've come to the conclusion that we should ban car modification," Martin said at a community centre in north Etobicoke, a Toronto suburb rocked by a spate of deaths related to street racing this year.


"In a number of our cities ... there has been an upsurge in deaths and injuries involving modified cars," he said. "This is not the Canada we imagine. It isn't the Canada we want for our families."
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Old Dec 8, 2005 | 08:17 PM
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Soooooo true it is becoming insane i almost agree with the leaving thing .......it is starting to make iraq look like freedom! This has to stop!
Old Dec 8, 2005 | 10:55 PM
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Ban car modifacations....he lost a million voters right there.

WHY THE **** DONT YOU MAKE THE DRIVERS TEST HARDER SO ONLY THE PEOPLE THAT CAN DRIVE DO DRIVE?

So instead of not being able to modify my car I think maybe I will just go and steal someone elses stock corvett and race it against my buddy who just stole a Viper.

How about Europe....the accident rate is small compared to Canada and many of theire roads dont have a speed limit.

But there licensing exam is brutally hard. Ban car modifacations.....I can see police oficers going garage to garage looking to bust people trying to have some fun and learn something with thier cars.
I would move in a heartbeat.

This **** is getting so ****ing stupid whats it gonna take to get a half *** logical government? this is just rediculious....there should be a "get your head out of your ***" protest.
Old Dec 9, 2005 | 08:57 AM
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^ its not going to happen because in general people are basically stupid.... and Iam not trying to be funny about that....

There are countless laws in this country that infringe on the rights of everyday citizens without doing jack **** to prevent crime... not only that, but some laws only propogate MORE CRIME...

Has the gun registry prevented any firearms related crimes... hell no... the crimials don't even want long barrels.. they want handguns which are already prohibitied and tightly regulated.. YET THE CRIMINAL STILL GET THEM....


If I wanted a handgun it could cost me thousands and take me monthes upon monthes to obtain one legally...... Yet with $500 I GUARENTEE I could find one by this time next week.....

And here I sit watching the social activists on TV say the blacks in TO are joining gangs because they are comming down to hard on them in the highschools.... so when they are in trouble for drugs & violence the solution is to be more lenient with them.... WTF !!!

The liberals have a lot of nice ideas that don't have any relavence in the real world....

What needs to happen is a call for your average citizen and familly to pull their head of their *** and start working for a better community....

There is no such thing as familly values anymore... that and the corporate greed that dominates us all are the core problems in our society IMO....

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Old Dec 9, 2005 | 11:24 AM
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i agree 100% with the above. remove the rafter before the sliver.

PC has my vote all the way. they may not be perfect but no one is.
Old Dec 9, 2005 | 12:57 PM
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Un****in believable! What hair-brained crap will they come up with next. More proof that our government is being run by imbeciles.
Old Dec 9, 2005 | 02:32 PM
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Originally posted by Haunz:
^ its not going to happen because in general people are basically stupid.... and Iam not trying to be funny about that....

There are countless laws in this country that infringe on the rights of everyday citizens without doing jack **** to prevent crime... not only that, but some laws only propogate MORE CRIME...

Has the gun registry prevented any firearms related crimes... hell no... the crimials don't even want long barrels.. they want handguns which are already prohibitied and tightly regulated.. YET THE CRIMINAL STILL GET THEM....


If I wanted a handgun it would cost me THOUSANDS and take me monthes upon monthes to obtain one legally...... Yet with $500 I GUARENTEE I could find one by this time next week.....

And here I sit watching the social activists on TV say the blacks in TO are joining gangs because they are comming down to hard on them in the highschools.... so when they are in trouble for drugs & violence the solution is to be more lenient with them.... WTF !!!

The liberals have a lot of nice ideas that don't have any relavence in the real world....

What needs to happen is a call for your average citizen and familly to pull their head of their *** and start working for a better community....

There is no such thing as familly values anymore... that and the corporate greed that dominates us all are the core problems in our society IMO....
Totally agree. I would say the courses, tests, licenses, etc that you need to buy a handgun are easily $1000, then another $1000 for a decent handgun. I know for a fact I could get a handgun within a week for under $1000. When I used to go to the bars a lot I could probably have gotten one same day.



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