Bulldogger

Yea, petitions never work.

So since it's illegal, I'll just get one anyway [img]graemlins/thumb.gif[/img]

I'll "forget" to register it, and no-one will be the wiser. </font>[/QUOTE]Not sure if that would be a wise idea.

Sorry about the size of that pic!

Mullen

I have to put my 2cents in. In a the past my job would take to customers homes, you can guess where I'm going with this. I have been attacked twice by "Pitbulls" the first time drew blood, the dog went right for my face and the second time I was ready for it and gave it my size ten right in the chops. Now before you condem me as a "Pitbull" hater I will say I love all dogs. THE DOGS ARE NOT TO BLAME... but they have decades of breading to fight and thats what gives them an aggressive streak. Bullsh%t if you think the owners are to blame 100% yes a bad owner can have an effect, but these dogs have the gene or predipositon to attack!!

The ban in Ontario is a reactionary one not a prevantive one and I dont like it, but at least something is being done right or wrong. There are several dog breads that can be a problem so a study maybe of the breeding methods or more of a crack down on these puppy mills!!!!!

DOGS RULE CATS DROOL!!!!!
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Blinddemonz

I agree with this. Why? Because I was attacked by 2 pitbulls and when I saw the female that attacked me later that day in a cage the dog was going nuts like it was rabbid.

To be 'fair' with the ban they could have a law where you need to pass a test or some requirements to own the breed. But thats as far as I'll go.

As for what JRace said about banning guns etc, there is a law that you need a license to own a gun. There's no license to own a pitbull. Not to mention I was told awhile ago that Pitbull's have been known from time to time to turn later in life.

"they attack because they are either scared, provoked, sick, hurt" so regardless of how they were trained, you're saying that its ok for the dog to attack someone because they are scared, sick or hurt??? (and yes I'm aware I eliminated something you said but the point is you still pointed out what I quoted).

Coulter - "But when you face the facts, I dont think any owner can have 100% control over their dog, no matter what the breed is. They still are animals and anything can set them off the wrong way." Very well put, which points out that it cannot be solely left on the owners training of the animal. It's 50/50 but majority of the time people who own these types of dogs sadly abuse them and make them the way they are. But that doesn't stop the good owners from maybe one day down the road not being able to stop the dog from attacking someone even if they were the nicest dog ever. It only takes a second. And to just point out above where I said I was attacked by 2 pitbulls, I was 15 years old I didnt even look at the dog, I was walking to the end of my driveway to catch the bus to school and next thing I know I have the female coming at me, and then shortly after because of my screaming the male came over before I knew it I was on the ground covering my head.

Gilligan - "Also very well put. Maybe then the govt should require that all breeders (of all breeds) aquire an FAC type document to even breed in this country. I am down for that!" There are still several unlicense breeders for any breed of dog that breed them illegally. My sisters black lab does not have his papers because the breeders bred the dogs privately.

Mullen - "yes a bad owner can have an effect, but these dogs have the gene or predipositon to attack!!" Very clearly put don't need to express anymore on that.

I agree with the ban I'm glad for it. But if I had to crack and let up one way it would be some form of testing to go through to get a license to own the breed. Similar to the amount of things one has to go through these days to own a child through adoption. Because like guns, it doesn't take much to get a license and any fool can be stupid about it and go kill someone and then all of a sudden GUNS ARE BAD BAN GUNS! There needs to be a better way to decide who can own this breed. I have no problem with anyone on this board owning one, as they have shown the responsibility it takes and proved it beyond anything. It's the people who know nothing of them that I do not agree with owning the breed.

Bulldogger

Just a thought....Your out walking a pit, get pulled over by a cop & he asks you to produce your what ever it may be (FAC type thing). If you can't supply it....VERY harsh fines & jail time?

Blinddemonz

Is that what happens?

Hardwrkr

iTrader: (5)

Personally I'm all for background checks for gun ownership, animal adoption, child adoption.

With the amount of CAS cases I see I would also love to see a check to determine if a couple is worthy to have a child. When I see a couple and look at their list of problems (mentally, socially) I am saddened to know that the child has a very good chance to grow up exactly like them. It is not the child's fault but we learn many skills by what we are taught and what we are accustomed to.

Blinddemonz

It's already harder than you think to adopt a child, they go through a whole bunch of things to determine if you're fit to be a parent. Its crazy, which is why I used it as an example that they should adopt for the pitbull ban. But yea [img]graemlins/thumb.gif[/img]

JRace

No, its never ok for a dog to attack - what I meant was those are the reasons a dog attacks.

If it is sick scared or hurt they will defend themselfs if they feel threatend. In that case it is the owners responsibility to keep there dog out of the situation where they can do harm.

However what happens is the dog will get punished and the breed gets a black mark.

Fair? Not for the dog whatsoever.

92zed34

iTrader: (4)

Been around alot of them, some were calm as can be and some were just plain unpredictable.

Never been biten by one,been bit in the *** by a german shephard though.

Those idiots that own the dog and make them mean will just do so with another breed now, there not gonna stop the violence with dogs this way.

The strict licencing seems like a more logical appraoch to the problem.

Brandon

iTrader: (1)

I agree with that 100%

It'll be Rotti's now or maybe Boxers or anything that looks mean.....that's the only reason people do it...it looks mean or dangerous....I can understand that but I also think it's pretty stupid.