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I agree with Tha-Game's respond for the most part, though I feel Iginla brought a lot more to Calgary than the team did for him. He and a few others brought that team to the level they achieved last year.
Personally I dont like how teams try to 'buy' the cup each year. The one year Detroit tried it back fired in their face (And I laughed very hard at that cause i absolutely hate that team) and they were eliminated first round. A lot of the teams that have won it lately (other than last year) have bought it or at least tried to. They need more talented players that get their hands outta their wallets and just play the game to the level that they can play which a lot of them dont seem to do. I would be happy if we had another year like last, where Tampa Bay & Calgary were in the final. Someone new. I'm sick of seeing the usual $$$ teams in the final.
If its all about money, then a lot of these smaller teams need to find a way to motivate their good players or buy some that will play the way they can for the little they get. None of this oh you dont pay me enough so I'm gonna slack. Toronto has lots of talent, and half if not more than half was in the stands during the playoffs. You buy a lot of rookies yet you dont use them [img]graemlins/dunno.gif[/img] They could'a used to use them considering their so called 'great veterans' just don't feel like playing the way they can.
Personally I dont like how teams try to 'buy' the cup each year. The one year Detroit tried it back fired in their face (And I laughed very hard at that cause i absolutely hate that team) and they were eliminated first round. A lot of the teams that have won it lately (other than last year) have bought it or at least tried to. They need more talented players that get their hands outta their wallets and just play the game to the level that they can play which a lot of them dont seem to do. I would be happy if we had another year like last, where Tampa Bay & Calgary were in the final. Someone new. I'm sick of seeing the usual $$$ teams in the final.
If its all about money, then a lot of these smaller teams need to find a way to motivate their good players or buy some that will play the way they can for the little they get. None of this oh you dont pay me enough so I'm gonna slack. Toronto has lots of talent, and half if not more than half was in the stands during the playoffs. You buy a lot of rookies yet you dont use them [img]graemlins/dunno.gif[/img] They could'a used to use them considering their so called 'great veterans' just don't feel like playing the way they can.
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If the owner says " hey SUndin we want you here playing for us we will pay you 24 million over X number years" who on earth would say no that there is the owners fault for paying top $$ now granted it takes skilled guys to bring home the cup but as we've seen in the past top $$ don't mean ****, if owners stopped offering stupid amounts of $$ to get players to jump ship you wouldn't have this battle you see now owners needs to keep a limit if the player jumps ship great if not oh well look else where.
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Originally posted by ChizzerZ24:
If the owner says " hey SUndin we want you here playing for us we will pay you 24 million over X number years" who on earth would say no that there is the owners fault for paying top $$ now granted it takes skilled guys to bring home the cup but as we've seen in the past top $$ don't mean ****, if owners stopped offering stupid amounts of $$ to get players to jump ship you wouldn't have this battle you see now owners needs to keep a limit if the player jumps ship great if not oh well look else where.
If the owner says " hey SUndin we want you here playing for us we will pay you 24 million over X number years" who on earth would say no that there is the owners fault for paying top $$ now granted it takes skilled guys to bring home the cup but as we've seen in the past top $$ don't mean ****, if owners stopped offering stupid amounts of $$ to get players to jump ship you wouldn't have this battle you see now owners needs to keep a limit if the player jumps ship great if not oh well look else where.
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Originally posted by Tha-Game:
see now id feel for the players if they were asked to take a huge paycut that would effect their quality of life, but come on now, sure 500,000 is alot to u or i, but when u make 3mill a year u cant tell me that u cant live off of 2 or 2.5, i dont see the big deal about having a salary cap, without it, every player will end up goin to arbitration to get more then the club offers, yea the owners paid the big contracts, but what choice do they have? let a player like iginla go cus he wants a lil more then the flames want to pay? what a cap will help prevent is teams like calgary developing a great player only to have someone like detroit come in with a fist full of cash and steal the player from the team whos made him what he is, i dont seen anything wrong with teams wanting to protect their invested time and money on their players.
see now id feel for the players if they were asked to take a huge paycut that would effect their quality of life, but come on now, sure 500,000 is alot to u or i, but when u make 3mill a year u cant tell me that u cant live off of 2 or 2.5, i dont see the big deal about having a salary cap, without it, every player will end up goin to arbitration to get more then the club offers, yea the owners paid the big contracts, but what choice do they have? let a player like iginla go cus he wants a lil more then the flames want to pay? what a cap will help prevent is teams like calgary developing a great player only to have someone like detroit come in with a fist full of cash and steal the player from the team whos made him what he is, i dont seen anything wrong with teams wanting to protect their invested time and money on their players.
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Here's what should happen, every player makes 500,000 a year, you can live comfortably on that. Then you get bonused on your performance, top goaltender that year, big bonus, best +/- big bonus. Team advances a round in playoffs, team is bonused. The problem is you have teams like Neew York with big payrolls, and they go nowhere, then you have Calgary and they go to 7 games in the Stanley Cup, do they not deserve more than the New York guys, hell yes.
Of course it would never be accepted as there are to many people that get paid for their past performance rather than their current performance.
Of course it would never be accepted as there are to many people that get paid for their past performance rather than their current performance.
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Originally posted by DWVW:
Here's what should happen, every player makes 500,000 a year, you can live comfortably on that. Then you get bonused on your performance, top goaltender that year, big bonus, best +/- big bonus. Team advances a round in playoffs, team is bonused. The problem is you have teams like Neew York with big payrolls, and they go nowhere, then you have Calgary and they go to 7 games in the Stanley Cup, do they not deserve more than the New York guys, hell yes.
Of course it would never be accepted as there are to many people that get paid for their past performance rather than their current performance.
Here's what should happen, every player makes 500,000 a year, you can live comfortably on that. Then you get bonused on your performance, top goaltender that year, big bonus, best +/- big bonus. Team advances a round in playoffs, team is bonused. The problem is you have teams like Neew York with big payrolls, and they go nowhere, then you have Calgary and they go to 7 games in the Stanley Cup, do they not deserve more than the New York guys, hell yes.
Of course it would never be accepted as there are to many people that get paid for their past performance rather than their current performance.
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