Gen1_Rx7

At This past weekends 2X comp at Fx Audio, Spruce Grove we tested the difference between the strapped Sundown 1500's (2.2ohms) Vs DD Z1 (0.5ohms) We tested the Sundown's using the Rx7 setup from the Street B eliminations (which as most would recall was less than suitable as the Ports were blocked by the back of the Rx7 and the 'Red Top' Battery was not charging properly to 12Volts due to 30 year old alternator) we topped at 145.5Db - Then when we tested The DD Z1 we Used Ryan's Electrical (Yellow top) and dropped the resistance to .5ohms from 2.2ohms And changed yet one more key factor - we pulled the boxes forward 8 inches to allow the ports to breathe this gave us a peak of 146.7Db a difference of 1.2Db

Now although I am relatively new to Db Drag It seems to me that all things considered the sundown’s compared relatively close to the DD Z1 in this “Real world” test

1.2Db doesn’t seem like that big of a difference to me considering the difference in battery charge, resistance, and port blockage

But hey maybe I’m wrong!

I’ll open this thread now to all the people who are going to bash Sundown Regardless – and say that I still wont “Try DD”

zzzzzzz

iTrader: (5)

to do a test you need to of the same set-ups (2 cars set up with the same thing but 1 has the DD and the othere has Sundown )
untill you do that you have not done a test (you where at a show that you won or lost )


i have seen cars try out othere amp in runs to see if it does more then what thay did last time (and yes some amps that you think would hit harder then otheres do not )

Gen1_Rx7

Placed Second

We did the test in the same car with the same subs and box but after we ran the sundown setup we Disconnected the speaker wire from the sundown amps and backed Ryans car agianst the RX7 and connected the speaker wire to his amp

i was not trying to say it was a fair comparison i was simply saying that in this comparison it seemed like the sundowns did more than what people are saying - it still put up a fair number compared to Z1

Madspinner

Hey Gen1_Rx7, Yeah I was the other guy in Street B in the integra, (That was a close race yo) I was wondering what you guys were hitting with the other amp.

Team Ricco 2

so how many more sundowns threads is this site going to go through?
the amp was tested in two different vehicles, with two totally different electrical systems and the Z1 was louder in the street car and the test in andies van showed the wattage of the 1500d. The test was done by world class competitors that know there , so im pretty sure the tests were fair.

if you dont feel they were then fine... like everyone says you can keep testing testing and testing to try and find the results you want to see... but my advice to the sundowns testers is that if you want to pull the claimed 4000 watts out of the pair strapped then I would sugguest alot of testing. test until you cant test any more...then when you cant get the results you want... just admit it.

Gen1_Rx7

The Amp out of that Saturn the one backed up to the Rx7 after the comp? - it pulled a max 146.7 -- that was a close race congrats again - i'll definitly see you next time once i fix the problems i had with it at that comp - i had hit higher than 145 in the early runs of that comp but i had battery and charging problems - too many problems but that need to be adressed--- you still did great man that was pretty amazing i couldnt believe that ending .1db db you had me pinned down - good work whats the max SPL youve pulled with that car?

Gen1_Rx7

I Didnt say the tests were not fair nor did state anything about strapped wattage or say some outstanding number that my sundowns can output. I was stating the simple test that we ran and our test results as to show that be it not as great as the Z1 the sundowns were not putting out crappy numbers - I'm sorry if just because it is a sundown thread everyone is going to automatically jump on the banter wagon about how i must be stating my sundown put out 10000000 watts, i dont car if my sundowns put out 12watts strapped at .0000001ohms! i'm saying my sundowns strapped only put out a 1.2Db drop over the Z1 with the ports Covered Vs Uncovered.

JordyO

iTrader: (17)

Why is it that when there are a good 3 or 4 tests done saying that the amps WILL do the power, but 1 that says they won't... you automatically believe the 1 test over the others? That seems a bit strange to me. (which is why I'm doing my own testing)

Sounds to me like you're the one who is only looking at the tests they want to see. Maybe it's time for you to "just admit it"

worldind

iTrader: (17)

Hey guys, I was driving the white saturn. Next time we'll have to be less lazy and actually do a direct swap.

Team Ricco 2

well ryan gained from runnning a Z1 over 2 sundowns strapped so that says something there, plus this test but I guess ill just wait and see what your test say. Can I say I told you so if the tests dont go so well? If they do go well then right on, Im pretty content with the amp I have right now so whatever your results are im not gonna buy sundowns even if you test 4500 watts out of the pair strapped