schickj

sorry if im asking to much, but your saying that the 2 12'' are going to be louder. but not a clean tone as a 1 very highquality sub as the one in the link?

And i dont want to be too Hardcore. i was thinkning be better than a particular freind(not hard to beat but want to reck). also i want something i can take with me into any veichle. a 10'' would be better cuz it fits into smaller area then 2 12''.

i think i want to know what a 10'' in that add would compaire to? (since it looks like it has way more travel). Like would it blow my 15'' 200rms out the window?(and laugh)



also with the set up on the one link. i wouldn't be putting stress (as much) on the alternator since i have that big of a cap. right?

RomanticMoments

Woah, slow down big fella.... I'm not saying anything about 2 12's not being as clean as 1 "very high quality sub". I'm saying there are alot of factors in what makes one setup better than the other. For example, your 15" could very well be out performed by a 12" on the same power simply by changing the song or even the enclosure. The point is that you need to pick a direction to go first off, then the budget you have to work with. You wanna be louder than buddy... Ok... Don't know what he has, so lets lean on the budget and get the best we can with that and hope it's better. So we have a grand max to work with.... Best bet would be to go used. Enter the MTX set you found. Looks like a solid deal, lots of power to work with, just gonna require a bit of an electrical upgrade to work.

schickj

Hahaha, well, what’s your opinion? Should I get something like the MTX? Or something along the lines of 2 12''? What would you do? Would this MTX made for clean crisp Bass? Will it rattle my windows? I’m just trying to figure out if I should look into this, and to further expand my knowledge. This will be going in a 2001 Honda civic. In the trunk.

I think what I really want to know is a 10'' 2000watt RMS going to out perform a 12'' 550Watt RMS. And if it stills all depends on variables what’s the purpose for that high watt of a subwoofer?

And for the potential upgrade I may know where some cheap 4-gauge wire is. Stinger wire of course.

RomanticMoments

I'm assuming the 12" on 550wrms is buddies system.... If you do the electrical upgrades and put that 10" in a proper box, I would wager a solid guess that yes, that 10 should outperform that 12. It is almost 4 times the power.

schickj

well my buddy doesnt have anything. but hes going to be competeing with me very soon. and he only buys new. so i want him to have to pay lots. lol

i know him very well and hes planning to put 3000 into sound. and hes my best freind. i know hes not full of . but buying everything new

illinja

Keep your eyes open for a 12" IDMAX v.3 or JL 12W6 used or maybe one of those FI Q subs.. then put it into a "properly" tuned ported enclosure that you build yourself (and overbuild it) Try to get in around 600-1000w RMS to her and just enjoy the sounds. I think one beastly SQL 12" in a low tuned box is going to blow you away.

When we say properly sized / tuned box we mean to manufacturers specs. or custom designed using winISD or similar box design software..

Since you're pretty new to all this just build it to ID's (or whoever's) Specifications.

http://www.*********************/manuals/iDMax/iDMax12D4V3.pdf

Just pick the largest Ported box size you can fit into your car. A larger box is more efficient and generally better sounding.

This setup will likely mop the floor with your buddy's system especially if he buys "big box" pre-fabed stuff and should be affordable in your $1000 price range. you can find 600W @ 2ohms amps all over the place for pretty cheap (like $200) the sub could be pricey maybe $300 for one in good shape with shipping. The box should just cost you time and around $40 for wood / glue. Get your cuts done for free at home depot.

With the leftover money you could get a nice front stage going to really take your stuff to the next level.

Also don't skimp with your amp kit. If you want this kind of power to your amp(s) your going to need 4ga (800w RMS max) and 2 or 1/0ga from there on. plus the electrical upgrades.

** just add Imagedynamicsusa . com in there **

schickj

now, i did miss read the add. The one sub is a 12'' MTX 9512-44


so should i look into this 12'' MTX 9512-44 or hold out for a 12" IDMAX v.3?




i have seen JL 12W6 for sale. but they have that foam out side. they dont look that good??

now, i did miss read the add. The one sub is a 12'' MTX 9512-44 .

RomanticMoments

What?!?!? To run the MTX setup the OP is looking at, 1/0 gauge is what is needed, as well as a second battery. To run 1kwrms, 4 gauge would be fine, and the OP may even be able to get away without the second batt.

schickj

i was compaireing MTX http://www.mtx.com/caraudio/products...a_T9512-44.pdf to Image Dynamics http://www.*********************/man...DMax12D4V3.pdf

and the MTX seems to have better specs. from what i can tell anyways

RomanticMoments

Do the Big Three regardless. There is a thread in Install Related I think... Father Yuli posted a how-to on it, so I won't go into detail here. If you end up with that MTX setup you found, a second battery is going to be needed. Also, you may want to look into a higher powered alternator... I'm not sure what yours is rated for. If you go with less amp power, you should be fine without the upgraded alt (depending on it's output) and battery (1kwrms and less). Personally, I like that MTX setup, even though I've never been a fan of MTX woofers.