OLD SKOOL Kicker XPL Subs ?
03-05-2005, 07:25 PM
#31
They arnt total ****... but there are much better companies out there IMO...
Anyone catch the guy on carsound who was totally pissed cause they dont offer recones for anything but the solox... they just told him to 'upgrade' and take and shove his $500US x 4 paper weight L7s up his ****... [img]graemlins/gunsarecool.gif[/img]
Anyone catch the guy on carsound who was totally pissed cause they dont offer recones for anything but the solox... they just told him to 'upgrade' and take and shove his $500US x 4 paper weight L7s up his ****... [img]graemlins/gunsarecool.gif[/img]
03-05-2005, 07:34 PM
#32
hahahaha.
You're so full of ****.
My solo's HAVE recones there cheif. There 2 year old recones, the originals got torn up from what, I dunno.
Don't even give me that crap, I know for a fact Kicker does recones.
Yea, you're right, there's better companies out there, But for the price, Kicker walks all over JL.
And if you wanna bring up audiobahn, they have decent product for the price also....not up to par with Kicker but good entry level stuff, there higher priced equiment is also pretty respectable.
You're so full of ****.
My solo's HAVE recones there cheif. There 2 year old recones, the originals got torn up from what, I dunno.
Don't even give me that crap, I know for a fact Kicker does recones.
Yea, you're right, there's better companies out there, But for the price, Kicker walks all over JL.
And if you wanna bring up audiobahn, they have decent product for the price also....not up to par with Kicker but good entry level stuff, there higher priced equiment is also pretty respectable.
03-05-2005, 07:37 PM
#33
Originally posted by Haunz:
How bout I bring W3s and well see what happens [img]graemlins/jack.gif[/img]
How bout I bring W3s and well see what happens [img]graemlins/jack.gif[/img]
BTW you seem to do a lot of this [img]graemlins/jack.gif[/img] well, I'll let you in on a little secret dude, pulling on it, doesn't make it grow.....sorry.
03-05-2005, 08:09 PM
#34
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Originally posted by Rob:
A speaker will not perform properly unless it has enough power and the box is built to spec.
Kicker is a very reputable car audio company, no ifs and or buts.
A speaker will not perform properly unless it has enough power and the box is built to spec.
Kicker is a very reputable car audio company, no ifs and or buts.
I'm still blown away by the kicker ZR series of amps, they are nutty good, especially for the price they fetch on ebay today.
The very first time I met Rob V.O. , I was 17, working at Cash Converters. He was in his older brown dodge colt, with 4 Kicker Solo 12's. each in a small sealed box, he had 4 of them, and it was pushing high 140's easily, I've yet to hear such sh*t rattling bass. It was nuts, I literally collapsed when I left his car, it made so dizzy, I just about [img]graemlins/puke.gif[/img] 'd
Dont say to me the older Kicker Solo's are garbage, experience means more then irrelevant opinion
03-05-2005, 08:14 PM
#35
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Originally posted by Haunz:
How bout I bring W3s and well see what happens [img]graemlins/jack.gif[/img]
How bout I bring W3s and well see what happens [img]graemlins/jack.gif[/img]
My Vifa is 97. I'd be glad to compare ANY JL W6 10,12,15 to my Vifa anyday. Funny part is, is that my Vifa cost $87 new. NOt bad for a sub that REGULARILY takes 1000 watts RMS from my Kicker 500SI. SO whats this about Kicker being crap? Maybe I just dont get it, but explain to me, since I'm VERY proud of Kicker
03-05-2005, 09:29 PM
#37
Originally posted by Haunz:
Ive owned 12 and 15 solos (old) and they both sucked azz... I blew the 12 with less then rated power and tore the 15 to **** trying to get some decent volume... the MA XE 15 that replaced it worked it over and still runs today...
FYI, my buddy dave had those xpls in his first system on a zapco ag350.. they sucked azz.. he later upgraded to solos but the dumb azz kicker dealer sold him a 4ohm and an 8ohm sub for some reason... funny story, same guy bought L7s and a kx1200 After having THREE bad amps(from a bad factory run) he got a good one... after 3monthes he tore the leads out of the L7s (which I fixed) and sold them.. they were in .8cubes each (supposed to be fine according to kicker) and sounded like hot azz... I can imagine how long they would have lasted in a good sized box..
I have a few more experiences I could share... and they dont get much better...
kicker ~ audiobahn [img]graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
Ive owned 12 and 15 solos (old) and they both sucked azz... I blew the 12 with less then rated power and tore the 15 to **** trying to get some decent volume... the MA XE 15 that replaced it worked it over and still runs today...
FYI, my buddy dave had those xpls in his first system on a zapco ag350.. they sucked azz.. he later upgraded to solos but the dumb azz kicker dealer sold him a 4ohm and an 8ohm sub for some reason... funny story, same guy bought L7s and a kx1200 After having THREE bad amps(from a bad factory run) he got a good one... after 3monthes he tore the leads out of the L7s (which I fixed) and sold them.. they were in .8cubes each (supposed to be fine according to kicker) and sounded like hot azz... I can imagine how long they would have lasted in a good sized box..
I have a few more experiences I could share... and they dont get much better...
kicker ~ audiobahn [img]graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
Uneducated to the importance of proper amplification and installation.
Anyways, Rob I hope the info I gave you earlier helps you out and as you can see from the input from user's with proper installation of these that you have gotten a good deal on some nice drivers.
03-06-2005, 09:43 AM
#39
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Originally posted by Rob:
A speaker will not perform properly unless it has enough power and the box is built to spec.
Kicker is a very reputable car audio company, no ifs and or buts.
A speaker will not perform properly unless it has enough power and the box is built to spec.
Kicker is a very reputable car audio company, no ifs and or buts.
Now I run two twelve inch Comp VR's 2003 model. And they run and sound awesome. Never would have had a problem with the XPL's if it hadn't been for my own stupidity. Kicker ownS!
03-06-2005, 09:50 AM
#40
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BTW I think JL makes fantastic equipment. But, it is far overpriced for what you get. I had a pair of W6's in about 1999. Very nice sub. However, the 225.00 each was a little steep for a measly 300 watts RMS. Needless to say I got rid of them and went to the XPL's which gave me 500 RMS each for a little cheaper then the JL's.
Then I got my Comp VR's online brand new for dirt cheap. You don't find JL's online for much cheaper than you can find in your local stores. But I got my VR's for like 100 bucks cheaper for each sub on the net.
Then I got my Comp VR's online brand new for dirt cheap. You don't find JL's online for much cheaper than you can find in your local stores. But I got my VR's for like 100 bucks cheaper for each sub on the net.
