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Old 03-06-2005, 06:45 PM
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he factored in the Kicker Suckage Factor, which on everything except their amps (which are amazing), is quite high by industry standards.
I've heard lots of L5s & L7s and I would never call it clean bass. considering the wattage given the subs as well, I wouldn't call their SPL numbers that respectable either. The SQ was dismal - transients were sloppy - the low bass was nice but the impact was missing.
Their old stuff is great, however, but Kicker is just another brand that gets worse and worse with every passing year, just like Fosgate.
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Oh but I guess POLK is cats *** is it?
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Old 03-06-2005, 06:51 PM
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Oh god, someone lock this useless thread already. [img]graemlins/banghead.gif[/img]
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Old 03-06-2005, 06:54 PM
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Originally posted by SPL donut ...:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Haunz:
I varified Xmax was 12mm one way as they advertise... 5mm more then the kickers.. lol..
Okay, and what does that mean? did you factor in anything else, or just Xmax? [img]graemlins/banghead.gif[/img] </font>[/QUOTE]Haunz revealed:

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^ dude, you are out of your league...

Originally posted by SPL donut ...:
does more or less 7mm of excursion make or break a woofer? how about reference effeciency when it comes to determining SPL, how about VAS, QTS, or Linear excursion. Good for the subs that can move lots, is there lots of cone break up? Is there uniform cone movement, whats the step response, or the group delay?
wow... I would consider excursion, linear excursion and uniform cone movement to be the same thing... and cone breakup will effect that... everyone knows 1w/1m effeciency means exactly **** for subwoofers... VAS and QTS are used in determining optimal box/install... the box/install will determine group delay... and step response will be determined by crossovers and install...

Hope you were able to catch all that...

brandon... IF ?

please...

edit: I hope everyone can appreciate that I have not called anyone any nasty names or posted any other dumb ****..

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Old 03-06-2005, 07:22 PM
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lets see some pics Haunz, you can talk all technical and yet ,I've never even heard you speak about your own system. So lets see it.
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Old 03-06-2005, 07:27 PM
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I live in peterborough... let me know when you are comming...

FYI I changed cars just before winter so it aint done yet...

Edit: I dare you to show up with a smart *** attitude...

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Old 03-06-2005, 07:33 PM
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Hahahaha, that was the stupidest thing you've ever said.

this post will be closed very soon I predict.

I already told you to come by with your w3's Haunz. You're welcome any time you little punk.
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little punk ?

grow up...


BTW.. I talked to a couple other people who were able to confirm kicker does not offer recones.. Ill be finding out for sure tommorow
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Originally posted by Haunz:
wow... I would consider excursion, linear excursion and uniform cone movement to be the same thing... and cone breakup will effect that... everyone knows 1w/1m effeciency means exactly **** for subwoofers... VAS and QTS are used in determining optimal box/install... the box/install will determine group delay... and step response will be determined by crossovers and install...
Too bad you consider excursion and uniform cone movement the same thing, since they're not [img]graemlins/banghead.gif[/img] Cone break up effects uniform cone movement, not the other way around. [img]graemlins/jack.gif[/img]
And how do you figure a subwoofers effeciency is irrelevant? honestly, how well a sub makes use of what energy its given plays a BIG role in SPL. how the hell would a very in-effecient sub be loud? Mr. Know-it-all?
HOw the hell is step response of a sub created by cross-overs dumbass? do you even know what step response is? Its how fast a speaker will react to an electrical signal, such as its measurable attack and decay rate, which is universal towards all drivers, including tweeters too. So how would that be determined by a crossover? Its determined by the sum total of ALL the T/S parimeters, AS WELL AS the box that the subwoofer is in. Different boxes allow the driver to react differently. SHouldn't you know this if you know everything Haunz?


Honestly Haunz, dont be talking crap, its your idiotic opinions that create this resentment towards you. Its easy to be tough when your on the net, but in person? how tough are you really?

I remember a little over two years ago, this guy was very insulting to me over this other forum, although he was right here in Calgary, so I met him in person, funny how quick he shut the hell up after that fiasco, dont be talking Sh*t about people, like DVWV is 6'4" and wieghs 300 pounds, I'll bet there are COUNTLESS other people on this forum that are at least almost as big.
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