A Debate on the many different aspects of sound
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dukk, i would love to hear about the speakers you designed and built, whos parts did you use, off the shelf parts or your own. i have built speakers with off the shelf parts and such, i would like to hear about your design philosophy and as well how did they sound, and what did you actually design and build
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Originally posted by theboy:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Dukk:
Without the time alignment, dash mounted midranges and tweeters often exhibit harsh side to side bias. Back in the day the fix was a center channel. That brought it's own problems and people moved to the kickpanel.
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Dukk:
Without the time alignment, dash mounted midranges and tweeters often exhibit harsh side to side bias. Back in the day the fix was a center channel. That brought it's own problems and people moved to the kickpanel.
[/QB]</font>[/QUOTE]Do you know for sure that most of the other cars in his class had A pillar tweets?
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Originally posted by theboy:
I listened to Daves car with my own two ears and it sounded increadable,
I listened to Daves car with my own two ears and it sounded increadable,
I listened to quite a few, and while I would have prefered to use a different disc for really critical listening I would say Dave's was probably in the top 5 that day without hesitation, Was his the best sounding I heard that day. No. Was there anything about Dave's car that would make me want to run out and port my midrange or midbass drivers, no. Was there anything about Dave's car that would make me think porting those drivers is a very bad idea, no.
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i in fact was there and listened to every car in his class, 3 of the 5 had a pillar tweets, the one with the tweeters up high all sounded the best, evrey car i heard that sounded any good all had high or a pillar mounted tweeters, there was as well some with apillar tweeters that didnt sound good but most did
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Originally posted by defro13:
dukk, i would love to hear about the speakers you designed and built, whos parts did you use, off the shelf parts or your own. i have built speakers with off the shelf parts and such, i would like to hear about your design philosophy and as well how did they sound, and what did you actually design and build
dukk, i would love to hear about the speakers you designed and built, whos parts did you use, off the shelf parts or your own. i have built speakers with off the shelf parts and such, i would like to hear about your design philosophy and as well how did they sound, and what did you actually design and build
Car Trek - with subwoofers I have always followed the advice to stay under 0.05 mach in a house and 0.09 mach in a car. As these are up front and you will be listening critically to them I would try to get closer to 0.05 than 0.08. If that's too hard then do a trial with the 0.08mach vent. Any chuffing may well be masked by the midrange output of the driver - a luxury a subwoofer does not have..
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Originally posted by defro13:
i in fact was there and listened to every car in his class, 3 of the 5 had a pillar tweets, the one with the tweeters up high all sounded the best, evrey car i heard that sounded any good all had high or a pillar mounted tweeters, there was as well some with apillar tweeters that didnt sound good but most did
i in fact was there and listened to every car in his class, 3 of the 5 had a pillar tweets, the one with the tweeters up high all sounded the best, evrey car i heard that sounded any good all had high or a pillar mounted tweeters, there was as well some with apillar tweeters that didnt sound good but most did
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Thanks DWVW. I'll re work it to keep it under .05.
Still looking for an easier way to make the ports, but it seems that since (almost) no-one's done, there's not much help out there. I guess I'll do it the hard way, and then figure out what I coulda done later. That's usually the case anyways with most of the stuff I've done. Isn't hindsight a wonderful thing. Been thinkin I'll make a mould from some hard plastic (blister pack)and wrap it in glass, then fix it to tho back panel, like the baffles, then wrap the whole mess, accounting for the extra glass that will have to go on, and trying to minimize the sanding required inside the port. Seems like a lot of freakin brain power for a couple of dB's.
Thinkin at $50/hr, better mids and a bigger amp would be the way to go, if this was strictly a business, instead of a passion!!!
I remember the panels I did in a GTP, that I think I rubbed more than my wife for a couple of months. Hardly seemed worth it at the time, but looking back, they were worth it and she wasn't!
Still looking for an easier way to make the ports, but it seems that since (almost) no-one's done, there's not much help out there. I guess I'll do it the hard way, and then figure out what I coulda done later. That's usually the case anyways with most of the stuff I've done. Isn't hindsight a wonderful thing. Been thinkin I'll make a mould from some hard plastic (blister pack)and wrap it in glass, then fix it to tho back panel, like the baffles, then wrap the whole mess, accounting for the extra glass that will have to go on, and trying to minimize the sanding required inside the port. Seems like a lot of freakin brain power for a couple of dB's.
Thinkin at $50/hr, better mids and a bigger amp would be the way to go, if this was strictly a business, instead of a passion!!!
I remember the panels I did in a GTP, that I think I rubbed more than my wife for a couple of months. Hardly seemed worth it at the time, but looking back, they were worth it and she wasn't!
