SQ improvement with ARC SE Amps
09-28-2010, 07:49 PM
#32
Narrow minded? Hardly!
THIS is the epitome of narrow mindedness:
So here is a great opportunity for some to gain knowledge. Its perfect for this topic:
Audio Musings by Sean Olive: The Dishonesty of Sighted Listening Tests
The above is not a nobody, this was a study conducted by harman with harman employees. Still choose to ignore psycho accoustics and not "beleive in it"? This is silly....
Here is another geat one
http://bruce.coppola.name/audio/Amp_Sound.pdf
THIS is the epitome of narrow mindedness:
hear it in my home and in my car so my ears will trump any test.
Audio Musings by Sean Olive: The Dishonesty of Sighted Listening Tests
... In other words, if you want to obtain an accurate and reliable measure of how the audio product truly sounds, the listening test must be done blind.
Here is another geat one
http://bruce.coppola.name/audio/Amp_Sound.pdf
09-28-2010, 07:55 PM
#33
Narrow minded? Hardly!
THIS is the epitome of narrow mindedness:
So here is a great opportunity for some to gain knowledge. Its perfect for this topic:
Audio Musings by Sean Olive: The Dishonesty of Sighted Listening Tests
The above is not a nobody, this was a study conducted by harman with harman employees. Still choose to ignore psycho accoustics and not "beleive in it"? This is silly....
Here is another geat one
http://bruce.coppola.name/audio/Amp_Sound.pdf
THIS is the epitome of narrow mindedness:
So here is a great opportunity for some to gain knowledge. Its perfect for this topic:
Audio Musings by Sean Olive: The Dishonesty of Sighted Listening Tests
The above is not a nobody, this was a study conducted by harman with harman employees. Still choose to ignore psycho accoustics and not "beleive in it"? This is silly....
Here is another geat one
http://bruce.coppola.name/audio/Amp_Sound.pdf
09-28-2010, 08:02 PM
#34
Quoted part of the above from lycan. hehe
09-28-2010, 08:22 PM
#35
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09-28-2010, 10:32 PM
#36
When I said I don't believe in psycho acoustics, I was referring to myself. I don't feel I effected by my eyes when listening to audio gear. I know people can sometimes hear with their eyes, but for the most part these are the easily manipulated or poorly educated (in audio) listeners. I trust my ears and only my ears. I have no bias about a products price or it's name. I've been doing this too long to care about such things.
Speaker choice and placement are the most important part of any audio system. No question there. But other equipment can have an effect as well in my opinion.
This will sound a little arrogant, but I don't bother listening to anyones opinion but my own when it comes to audio. That isn't to say I don't hear what is
being said, just that if I can't hear the difference, all the technical mumbo jumbo is meaningless. I trust my ears and no ones elses.
My only suggestion to anyone reading this is to take the time to hear some good home gear and do their own testing. Hearing differences in gear isn't all that hard if you have the right place to do it in. The differences may not be much, but if your into good sound, the change might be worth it.
Part of the problem is also that most listeners don't have the experience to tell the difference between sounds. I can't tell you what ingredients are in most of my meals, but I know some people can, simply by tasting.
And as cheesy as it sounds audio is more than FR graphs. Music is not a science, it's emotion and passion. No test gear is able to do what the ear and mind can do.
Speaker choice and placement are the most important part of any audio system. No question there. But other equipment can have an effect as well in my opinion.
This will sound a little arrogant, but I don't bother listening to anyones opinion but my own when it comes to audio. That isn't to say I don't hear what is
being said, just that if I can't hear the difference, all the technical mumbo jumbo is meaningless. I trust my ears and no ones elses.
My only suggestion to anyone reading this is to take the time to hear some good home gear and do their own testing. Hearing differences in gear isn't all that hard if you have the right place to do it in. The differences may not be much, but if your into good sound, the change might be worth it.
Part of the problem is also that most listeners don't have the experience to tell the difference between sounds. I can't tell you what ingredients are in most of my meals, but I know some people can, simply by tasting.
And as cheesy as it sounds audio is more than FR graphs. Music is not a science, it's emotion and passion. No test gear is able to do what the ear and mind can do.
Last edited by fozzz; 09-28-2010 at 10:37 PM. Reason: My spilling suuks
09-29-2010, 08:20 AM
#39
When I said I don't believe in psycho acoustics, I was referring to myself. I don't feel I effected by my eyes when listening to audio gear. I know people can sometimes hear with their eyes, but for the most part these are the easily manipulated or poorly educated (in audio) listeners. I trust my ears and only my ears. I have no bias about a products price or it's name. I've been doing this too long to care about such things.
Speaker choice and placement are the most important part of any audio system. No question there. But other equipment can have an effect as well in my opinion.
This will sound a little arrogant, but I don't bother listening to anyones opinion but my own when it comes to audio. That isn't to say I don't hear what is
being said, just that if I can't hear the difference, all the technical mumbo jumbo is meaningless. I trust my ears and no ones elses.
My only suggestion to anyone reading this is to take the time to hear some good home gear and do their own testing. Hearing differences in gear isn't all that hard if you have the right place to do it in. The differences may not be much, but if your into good sound, the change might be worth it.
Part of the problem is also that most listeners don't have the experience to tell the difference between sounds. I can't tell you what ingredients are in most of my meals, but I know some people can, simply by tasting.
And as cheesy as it sounds audio is more than FR graphs. Music is not a science, it's emotion and passion. No test gear is able to do what the ear and mind can do.
Speaker choice and placement are the most important part of any audio system. No question there. But other equipment can have an effect as well in my opinion.
This will sound a little arrogant, but I don't bother listening to anyones opinion but my own when it comes to audio. That isn't to say I don't hear what is
being said, just that if I can't hear the difference, all the technical mumbo jumbo is meaningless. I trust my ears and no ones elses.
My only suggestion to anyone reading this is to take the time to hear some good home gear and do their own testing. Hearing differences in gear isn't all that hard if you have the right place to do it in. The differences may not be much, but if your into good sound, the change might be worth it.
Part of the problem is also that most listeners don't have the experience to tell the difference between sounds. I can't tell you what ingredients are in most of my meals, but I know some people can, simply by tasting.
And as cheesy as it sounds audio is more than FR graphs. Music is not a science, it's emotion and passion. No test gear is able to do what the ear and mind can do.
I couldn't agree more
