Tweeters
Originally posted by MB:
sling - where did u hear the plats?
sling - where did u hear the plats?
Originally posted by Kilowatt:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by slingshot2:
You wanna hear a really great tweeter? Try the SEAS Excel tweeter....I heard it in Anthony Davis's car, and I loved it. The whole set is so smooth it's not even funny but the tweeter really completes the set...another to try is the new Morel Supreemo's(sp?) I'm hearing a lot of great things about them..supposed to be around $400US.
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by slingshot2:
You wanna hear a really great tweeter? Try the SEAS Excel tweeter....I heard it in Anthony Davis's car, and I loved it. The whole set is so smooth it's not even funny but the tweeter really completes the set...another to try is the new Morel Supreemo's(sp?) I'm hearing a lot of great things about them..supposed to be around $400US.
Originally posted by ChinaMan:
I too am in search of a tweet but all the good stuff is at extreme prices. Reading through this post, I see many interesting suggestions... in who's car can I listen to the DLS's locally? Tom? Hehehehe... Mark?
Anyhow, I spoke to Brian Campbell at the Focal booth at CES - great guy - and he said the beryllium tweets will trickle down to the Utopia car line, but probably not next year he says. Right now, the Utopia line tweeters are being surpassed by the new kevlar line units as they are actually revamped TN51's - says Brian. As for purchasing them on their own, Focal will not sell unless you're an authorized JM Lab dealer and are fixing blown Be tweets (which btw need to be shipped back to JM Lab as part of policy). I agree with Adam (pei) that the 51's just can't handle the power and sound quite harsh at high levels. The vifa XT's you (Adam) have is actually the tweet I was inquiring about in my other thread below - dual concetric type drivers. I figure it was the budget version of the new scan-speak units. From my understanding, they don't seem to be good enough? Do you think you could elaborate on the sound of the XT's?
Listening to Plow's bmw, I've noticed that his scan-speak revelator tweets have incredible off axis response, and it's the sound you would get from a home system... airy and open. I've considered experimenting with using home units but it's hard to get reviews of ppl using them in cars.
So anyone using SEAS drivers in TO? Interested in hearing those too.
Sorry for the long post...
I too am in search of a tweet but all the good stuff is at extreme prices. Reading through this post, I see many interesting suggestions... in who's car can I listen to the DLS's locally? Tom? Hehehehe... Mark?
Anyhow, I spoke to Brian Campbell at the Focal booth at CES - great guy - and he said the beryllium tweets will trickle down to the Utopia car line, but probably not next year he says. Right now, the Utopia line tweeters are being surpassed by the new kevlar line units as they are actually revamped TN51's - says Brian. As for purchasing them on their own, Focal will not sell unless you're an authorized JM Lab dealer and are fixing blown Be tweets (which btw need to be shipped back to JM Lab as part of policy). I agree with Adam (pei) that the 51's just can't handle the power and sound quite harsh at high levels. The vifa XT's you (Adam) have is actually the tweet I was inquiring about in my other thread below - dual concetric type drivers. I figure it was the budget version of the new scan-speak units. From my understanding, they don't seem to be good enough? Do you think you could elaborate on the sound of the XT's?
Listening to Plow's bmw, I've noticed that his scan-speak revelator tweets have incredible off axis response, and it's the sound you would get from a home system... airy and open. I've considered experimenting with using home units but it's hard to get reviews of ppl using them in cars.
So anyone using SEAS drivers in TO? Interested in hearing those too.
Sorry for the long post...
Originally posted by slingshot2:
hmm...must have been a different car then, I coulda swore he had the Excel tweets when I heard it.
Who is that Brian guy with the red 4 door Accord? I met him at Moe's Finals qualification last year, I was looking at his car and he has some big tweets in his car...looked like Excels or maybe Morel? Apperently he did really well last year wit hthat car.
hmm...must have been a different car then, I coulda swore he had the Excel tweets when I heard it.
Who is that Brian guy with the red 4 door Accord? I met him at Moe's Finals qualification last year, I was looking at his car and he has some big tweets in his car...looked like Excels or maybe Morel? Apperently he did really well last year wit hthat car.
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Having great product is ......... well great. I heard a set of top of the line Focals on the weekend that ...........well, didn't sound very good at all. They SHOULD have sounded awesome. But why didn't they. One word. INSTALLATION. So back to what I've always said, if your install is the weakest link, it will not matter what gear you own ...........
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^^ I agree with Tom.
Back to tweeters.(Duct tape and double sided tape required)
I've installed my Focal TN-51 tweeters on my A-Pillars firing directly across the windshield at each other. In short, I thing there is some potential. I've varied the X.O. point from 2Khz up to 8 Khz and found the following:
1.) These are bright tweeters!
2.) They don't like to play below 5khz very loud
3.) Once you dial the X.O. point above 5khz, they don't sound harsh at high volumes.
4.) Varying the intensity (volume) of the left and right tweeters effects imaging more than time alignment. I found that phase response is harder to hear at higher frequencies. You can hear it, but you'll get better soundstaging by matching your left and right tweeter levels perfectly.
So for now, the TN-51s are back in the car.
Adam
Back to tweeters.(Duct tape and double sided tape required)
I've installed my Focal TN-51 tweeters on my A-Pillars firing directly across the windshield at each other. In short, I thing there is some potential. I've varied the X.O. point from 2Khz up to 8 Khz and found the following:
1.) These are bright tweeters!
2.) They don't like to play below 5khz very loud
3.) Once you dial the X.O. point above 5khz, they don't sound harsh at high volumes.
4.) Varying the intensity (volume) of the left and right tweeters effects imaging more than time alignment. I found that phase response is harder to hear at higher frequencies. You can hear it, but you'll get better soundstaging by matching your left and right tweeter levels perfectly.
So for now, the TN-51s are back in the car.
Adam
Originally posted by PEI330Ci:
I kind of find it amusing that a thread on tweeters has outlasted all the subwoofer threads. Must be the SQ forum?
I kind of find it amusing that a thread on tweeters has outlasted all the subwoofer threads. Must be the SQ forum?
