FOCAL AND AUDISON ARE OF THE DEVIL!!!! A FULL ALPINE F#1 SYSTEM WILL FIX ALL THE PROBLEMS IN YOUR LIFE!!

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Heehee that makes me chuckle.

^ lol - Dave, you and I should build a pair of cars on a budget one day. Say 2grand retail or so. You can go all active and I'll go all passive [img]smile.gif[/img]

and HEY - I never bashed either brand so blah. One of my best friends is a Karz rep and I am am well aquainted with Phil too [img]graemlins/thumb.gif[/img]

um, Adam - I...thought... you had your previous gear because it was "the best you could get". Are you opining differently now? [img]graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

anytime dukk, anytime, i can easily go all active for 2 grand retail, you will have made 10 sets of 3 way passives(assuming 3 way unless your passive system will be 2 way) to get it right, all the while i'll be drivin down the road enjoyin my tunes. give me an alpine deck with 3 way electronic, or a couple 2xs's anyday, when can we get started

although i kind of dislike budgetary restraints, i think it would be fun

[ May 20, 2005, 07:17 AM: Message edited by: defro13 ]

haha satan, was that post powered by crest dave?

Dukk, raw equipment wise my opinion has changed. From when I originally purchased my Focal/Audison gear, there have been new products introduced to the Canadian market that easily eclipse the performance potential of my old stuff. I say "potential", because a great dealer capitalizes on this with a great install, and a poor dealer makes the price and expected performance a liability.

But more importantly, my understanding of value has changed. Putting the same effort I've put into my ultra high system, would probably result in equal or better sound with a less complicated setup. The one exception to this is in dynamic output, where it gets really pricey to sound good too.(which is exactly what I was messing around with)

From the average buyer's perspective, I feel people aren't getting the most out of what they already own. Some dealers are going to be able to help optimize whatever installation is in a customers car without any equipment being purchased. Those are the shops that I feel are worth buying from, regardless of what brand is being represented.

As some of you know, I've taken on a job in the industry that has me directly linked to some brands. I wouldn't have moved in this direction with regard to equipment and working relationships unless I honestly felt the products and people were first class.I have a passion for high end gear, that hasn't changed.

And yes Dukk, the new stuff is even MORE expensive. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Adam

I have an active system underway with a pair of 6s in each door, and two pairs of tweets.
I haven't much experience with active setups.
The 6s are gonna get about 115 watts each, in ported enclosures....how much will be too much for the tweets?
I was planning on sending them about 40 watts each at 2 ohms ,but I could step up to 80?
I'm already way over budget on this one, but I could upgrade to a 4 ch amp, and run the tweets at 4 ohms with 50 each, or go to a bigger 2 ch amp at 2 ohms.
???
Thinking that the 4 ch might be the way to go.....seperate gains, as a pair of tweets on the dash, and a pair in the kicks, or wherever sounds good.

Sorry for hijackin' the thread.

[ May 20, 2005, 12:42 AM: Message edited by: Car Trek ]

pei, still using the pxah900?

Dave, you shouldn't even have to ask.

It's in my will.

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thought so

Adam - while you may, I don't care what your gear is worth. In my years I have found some products worthy of 5x their retail price and others that were quite the opposite as well. In my experience dollars don't necessarily equal quality and it certainly is not a linear scale.


You speak of value and performance. I hope you get at least one.