What speaker is good for mid bass?
I just recently bought a pair of focal 165 KF for the fronts. They sound awesome but I find that, in order to get clean and clear vocal off them, I have to cross them pretty high. I cross my sub, Focal polyglass 33v2, at 50hz. There's a missing chunk of mid bass that I need to fill up. When I play my reference track, Eagles - Hotel California, the missing chunk of bass is very obvious. I now hooked up my stock 6x9 and cross it to fill in the mid bass..which actually sounds pretty good, but they are very poor in dynamics. If I turn them a little louder, it starts distorting. Well, basically, it can't keep up with my frionts and sub.
Can anybody suggest a punchy sounding speaker that I can use as mid bass? either 6.5 or 6x9 is fine. Around 100+, less than 200 is ideal, thanks
Can anybody suggest a punchy sounding speaker that I can use as mid bass? either 6.5 or 6x9 is fine. Around 100+, less than 200 is ideal, thanks
Also, how are you managing to accomplish proper crossing on your factory 6/9's now, are you bandpassing them or something to get that as you say fill in the midbass? Seems to me there is too much monkey business
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Yup, I need something that fills in around 60-90/100 at the back. I just came back from tuning the speakers again (before reading anything here), this time with my gf's help. The fronts are crossed at HP 80hz, sub at LP 50hz, and the rear 6x9s at LP 90hz +/-. The rears don't go lover than 70hz or so, so it fills in the gap nicely. Regardless, the rears are still the weakest link, which I will have them replaced sooner or later.
You realize, that crossover does not cut at the chosen freq, there are slopes at work. You may want to play with them. Try this and let me know...
Cross fronts at 80hz/12db, cross rears with same, cross your sub first at 70hz/24db, and see if the gap is still there, if yes, than cross the sub at 80hz/24db, and you will have a nicely re-enforced midbass. Then, if you had a proper head unit, you could fade out the rears a bit to draw the stage back to the front. If your rears are powered by an amp then you can drop the gain a bit to blend them nicely.
You cannot expect much from your set-up right now, cause from what I remember you hook your ipod directly to your amp with rca's. What kind of control and tuning do you expect? Do it right man, and dont judge your gear, if you have means to control it. You need fine tuning capabilities to get the sound just right for you.
Also, your front speakers are not happy playing low and get muffled in the upper midrange possibly to your amp. It is not very powerful. Speakers love power, and the lower you cross them, the more power you need for good control. SQ is about power power and more power no matter what anyone else tells you. You get a more powerful amp, you wll be blown away by the difference. It starts to get good with at least 150wrms/side, but I would not use anything less than 200 wrms/side, cause I like it loud and clean. With low listening volume you prefer, 150 should be ok.
Cross fronts at 80hz/12db, cross rears with same, cross your sub first at 70hz/24db, and see if the gap is still there, if yes, than cross the sub at 80hz/24db, and you will have a nicely re-enforced midbass. Then, if you had a proper head unit, you could fade out the rears a bit to draw the stage back to the front. If your rears are powered by an amp then you can drop the gain a bit to blend them nicely.
You cannot expect much from your set-up right now, cause from what I remember you hook your ipod directly to your amp with rca's. What kind of control and tuning do you expect? Do it right man, and dont judge your gear, if you have means to control it. You need fine tuning capabilities to get the sound just right for you.
Also, your front speakers are not happy playing low and get muffled in the upper midrange possibly to your amp. It is not very powerful. Speakers love power, and the lower you cross them, the more power you need for good control. SQ is about power power and more power no matter what anyone else tells you. You get a more powerful amp, you wll be blown away by the difference. It starts to get good with at least 150wrms/side, but I would not use anything less than 200 wrms/side, cause I like it loud and clean. With low listening volume you prefer, 150 should be ok.
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