Seatbelt fine.
Originally Posted by M.C. Ryan
I agree to a point... this would definately bring our gene pool standards back up if it was by "choice" to wear a seat belt. Only thing that would worry me are the extra costs involved with our public health system to keep all the vegitables alive that decided they were too cool to wear a seat belt...
Your missing the point here, I don't dispute the ticket, I have no problem admitting when I am wrong and paying the consequences. I have never disputed prior tickets etc.
What I have an issue with is the police officer loosing sight of me, then pulling me over wayyy after the incident occured in a different part of town. He had no plate # or anything. Where do you draw the line? Can he ticket me for something he says he "saw" me do a couple days ago, or maybe couple weeks ago? He drove by me doing at least 50km/h and my truck has factory window tinting. When he pulled me over I was wearing my belt. Yes he was correct that it was me he saw earlier, but there is a very big possibility that he could have pulled the wrong person over, or that I was indeed wearing my belt.
If he had pulled me over where he first saw me, the ticket would be payed in full already, but this is a bit much. We'll see what the judge says I guess...
What I have an issue with is the police officer loosing sight of me, then pulling me over wayyy after the incident occured in a different part of town. He had no plate # or anything. Where do you draw the line? Can he ticket me for something he says he "saw" me do a couple days ago, or maybe couple weeks ago? He drove by me doing at least 50km/h and my truck has factory window tinting. When he pulled me over I was wearing my belt. Yes he was correct that it was me he saw earlier, but there is a very big possibility that he could have pulled the wrong person over, or that I was indeed wearing my belt.
If he had pulled me over where he first saw me, the ticket would be payed in full already, but this is a bit much. We'll see what the judge says I guess...
Originally Posted by Kilowatt
There should be manditory fitness requirements for active members, afterall WE are paying them to protect us from harm...
Your second comment though about "WE pay them to protect us" also is the reason you got the seatbelt ticket. The seatbelt is there to keep YOU safe as well as keep those around you safe (the secondary idea for the seatbelt is that it keeps you alive and in the position of your seat to control your car in the event that something happens to that would move you from your seat if not wearing the belt..............kinda like how anti-lock brakes work to allow you to stear the vehicle even though you are braking so hard as to lock the brakes normally).
Of the MVC fatals that I attended last year; half of them could have been prevented by use of wearing a seatbelt. It's that simple. Here's just one example: I attended a very mild collision last summer where a driver lost control and hit a tree. The elderly female driver was not wearing her seatbelt and the impact moved her from her seat and into the steering wheel. The impact of her hitting the steering wheel broke some of her ribs and one of those ribs punctured her lung and she died as a result. If she had have been wearing the belt the worst she would have sustained was some possible bruising from the belt. But she would have walked through the front door of her home that night to see her family.
Now picture that woman is your mother or grandmother. Would you be happy to see me give her a ticket for not wearing a seatbelt the week before this accident occured knowing it might remind/guilt her into wearing her belt from now on and saving her life in that crash? If you actually like your family members you would say yes.
I'm not going to argue the "Cops always pull us over because we drive souped up cars" crap but I will try to educate you as to why some of these safety devices are in your car. Hopefully you will use them and it just might save your life someday.
Drive safe.
Kilowatt, yes the officer can pull you over at a later date and issue a ticket. A prime example of this is a code 3 call when the driver in front of you fails to yield to a emergency vehicle, be it a ambulance, fire rescue vehicle or police vehicle. While the driver may think nothing of it at the time as the emergency vehicle just went past you (finally) after you failed to yield, the driver may already have had enough information taken regarding this circumstance to warrant a ticket when the time allows. This may be at the start of the officers next shift (they also have days off), at the end of his current shift or after the code 3 call has cleared. With the advance of camera technology these days, it will allow whatever emergency service to authenticate without any doubt as to the nature of the ticket. This is but one example and there are many more that can fit the requirements as well.
Bylaw officers are empowered under a city juristiction. They are empowered to enforce the city laws as duly noted at your local city hall. A excessive noise ordinance or no loud music ordinance would be the bylaw that will directly apply in this circumstance. Yes the bylaw officer can ticket you, they have given you ample leeway thus far, I would keep the volume dial in check or expect a ticket in your future.
Bylaw officers are empowered under a city juristiction. They are empowered to enforce the city laws as duly noted at your local city hall. A excessive noise ordinance or no loud music ordinance would be the bylaw that will directly apply in this circumstance. Yes the bylaw officer can ticket you, they have given you ample leeway thus far, I would keep the volume dial in check or expect a ticket in your future.
Originally Posted by Hardwrkr
Your second comment though about "WE pay them to protect us" also is the reason you got the seatbelt ticket. The seatbelt is there to keep YOU safe as well as keep those around you safe (the secondary idea for the seatbelt is that it keeps you alive and in the position of your seat to control your car in the event that something happens to that would move you from your seat if not wearing the belt..............kinda like how anti-lock brakes work to allow you to stear the vehicle even though you are braking so hard as to lock the brakes normally).
It's the fact that this officer pulled me over well after the "incident" and had no proof it was even me other than I drive a plain blue truck with an ATV in the back. No license plate #, no in car camera, no back-up partner, nothing. He also has no proof that I was not wearing my seatbelt at the time because he did not pull me over, he was only assuming I wasn't wearing it...
Rob: My situation is completely different from the scenario you provided. The officer had no proof I was not wearing my belt because he did not pull me over at the time he saw me. I don't care how you put it, there is something wrong with an officer "assuming" you were breaking the law and ticketing you at a later time...


