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Old Jul 27, 2005 | 08:21 AM
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How is the Kinetic better than my Excide Orbital Extreme?

If it is? And if the HC2400 Monster will fit in my toyota? And if the deal is good enough, I could be your West Coast guinea pig.
Old Jul 27, 2005 | 09:15 AM
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Originally posted by Lethal:
How is the Kinetic better than my Excide Orbital Extreme?

If it is? And if the HC2400 Monster will fit in my toyota? And if the deal is good enough, I could be your West Coast guinea pig.
Well, which Kinetik are you talking about? I would say the 2400 is easily better than the Orbital Extreme.

Just to compare something that is closer... the HC 800 is about 1/2 the weight and is 950 amps, 750 CA's, 36Ah.

The HC 1400 is a bit smaller physically.. 1500 AMPS, 1150 CA's and 60Ah.

The Excide is 1100 Max amps and 50AH. (no CA rating) ...

I'm not really sure how big of a battery you could fit in to your Toyota, but the HC 2400 is 13" x 6.7" x 8.5" (9.4" with post). [img]graemlins/thumb.gif[/img]
Old Jul 27, 2005 | 09:34 AM
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Originally posted by DWVW:
Your logic in that everyone needs a battery sounds good at first, unfortunatley batteries are the type of product that people generally only buy when they NEED a new one. Most people will not upgrade to a newer better battery until the old one dies. I have never been able to sell an Optima to someone with a functioning battery already, but I sold a ton of them to people when their battery died.
I completely agree with this statement. Although it may same to you that batteries are a must for a car audio upgrage, I would argue that probably over 50% of people that have upgraded their audio system in some way, dont think of a new battery/electrical system at all.

[ July 27, 2005, 10:34 AM: Message edited by: coulter ]
Old Jul 27, 2005 | 12:20 PM
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Originally posted by JordyO:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by veeman:
Well that's all good, except it's the manufacturer's info. Problem I see is that the brand is relatively unknown and unproven to the mass of users out there. Optima, die hard or any of a number of other brands have proven themselves over time and are less expensive generally. While this product may be the best thing since sliced bread, it will take some time for brave souls to try them and love them and the good word.
I totally agree that it's going to take a few people to try it out and show what it can do before it would be generally accepted.

What better way to get people to try it than to offer a fairly significant discount? [img]graemlins/dunno.gif[/img]
</font>[/QUOTE]that seems to be the problem though, from the post I'm assuming that even at the discounted price, these batteries are priced above the known brands. If this is true, then it's very hard for the average enthusiast to justify purchasing an unknown item versus one with a track record. If the price was say 25% below the competition initially(trial period to get the word out) then I can see many people taking the chance and buying one. I use the old drug dealers trick...give the stuff out for free until they get hooked, then charge them an arm and a leg.
Old Jul 27, 2005 | 12:44 PM
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Sounds fair.... I guess this GB is a wash then, we'll just have to see if someone wants to take advantage of the discount before the 14th....

I guess I'll have to come up with something different for the next one

btw... thanks for the input/help everyone!

[ July 27, 2005, 01:59 PM: Message edited by: JordyO ]
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