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Old 06-01-2011, 02:33 PM
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Set your DVOM to AC volts, play some tones at the volume you usually have the radio at, test the centre pin to the ground on one RCA and you'll get an idea of where you're at. All music is different, but it'll give u an idea.

JStoner's right about noise floor. Do u have audible hiss on the blank portions before or after songs?
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Old 06-02-2011, 11:05 AM
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not a chance would i run anything like that. the noise floor will be terrible. run the gains as low as possible while still acheiving the volume you want (and without clipping).
you can tune youe headunit for your desired sound afterwards. i'm sure the alpine has some kind of EQ?
once you turn the volume past 50-60% the EQ settings will distort , i get the best sound floor with the volume at half and the gain at max, zero distortion and sounds louder and more crisp then setting the gain anywhere else.

will this kill the life time of my speakers and/or amplifier though?
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Old 06-02-2011, 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr.DatSubishi
Set your DVOM to AC volts, play some tones at the volume you usually have the radio at, test the centre pin to the ground on one RCA and you'll get an idea of where you're at. All music is different, but it'll give u an idea.

JStoner's right about noise floor. Do u have audible hiss on the blank portions before or after songs?
i dont have any hiss inbetween songs at all.
and i will try out the DVOM on the RCA's today, thank you
what should i be looking for on the DVOM, what rms is ideal?
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Old 06-02-2011, 11:19 AM
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well its only going to hurt the speakers if you exceed their thermal or mechanical limits. clipping and excessive volume will cause these to occur. running it like that you are running the risk of it happening since anyone can crank that volume **** by accident.


honestly, i may be ignorant to a bit of knowledge here, but its makes no sense to me why you would contemplate running your system that way, i only see downfalls.

your best noise floor will be with your gains as low as possible, and some decks mute between songs. listen to a high quality recording and note the hiss. the EQ settings are causing distortion so low because your gains are so high.

also i do not understand how running it like this would alter how 'crisp' it sounds.

i think you really need to do some reading up on what a gain dial is meant for. using in such a fashion is ludicrous. imo

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Old 06-02-2011, 11:27 AM
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well its only going to hurt the speakers if you exceed their thermal or mechanical limits. clipping and excessive volume will cause these to occur. running it like that you are running the risk of it happening since anyone can crank that volume **** by accident.


honestly, i may be ignorant to a bit of knowledge here, but its makes no sense to me why you would contemplate running your system that way, i only see downfalls.

your best noise floor will be with your gains as low as possible, and some decks mute between songs. listen to a high quality recording and note the hiss. the EQ settings are causing distortion so low because your gains are so high.

also i do not understand how running it like this would alter how 'crisp' it sounds.

i think you really need to do some reading up on what a gain dial is meant for. using in such a fashion is ludicrous. imo
okay thank you, i will turn the gain down and see how the EQ settings sound with the head unit volume up higher and see how she goes
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Old 06-02-2011, 11:32 AM
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when you are tuning it, minimize any EQ use. and try and refrain from using any setting like bass boost and 'loud' and BBE maximizer etc.

use your eq to cut more rather than gain whenever possible.

just remember, you want the strongest clean signal possible coming from the deck before amplifying it. your amps can't discern noise from content, so running gains so high will amplify the noise as well as musical content. which you don't want.
and the risk you run of hurting the equipment.

there are multiple good shops right around you in the oshawa whitby area that can help you tune if need be.
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Old 06-15-2011, 01:58 PM
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agreed with a few people here, either you are actually running an underpowered amp and just cranking its gains, or maybe youre using too many of the EQ features on your deck. run everything flat with NO maxed out gains. i wouldnt worry just about the life of your equipment but more on how to do it properly.

what ARE you running in terms of amplification, deck and speakers? check what frequency youre tuned to as well, you may need adjusting in that department

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