Cost no object midbass
12-02-2007, 07:43 PM
#51
Well that's not very nice!
I don't think anyone should take much of this stuff personally. If people have questions, give them your 2 cents. It's up to the readers to decide if it's good info. I don't think competitions are a good way to judge one car versus another. I'll build to my taste and I would expect everyone else to do the same. The winner is often just the one with a taste more similar to the judge of the day.
df.dima
I'm not against used speakers. Just against "overly used" speakers. Trouble is, it can be hard to tell the difference until it's too late. MuTT is an Ebay ****, so he can weed out the deals. I'm affraid of Ebay. And if I were you, I would hang on to the SEAS woofers. If they are in good shape, I'm sure we can make somthing happen.
I don't think anyone should take much of this stuff personally. If people have questions, give them your 2 cents. It's up to the readers to decide if it's good info. I don't think competitions are a good way to judge one car versus another. I'll build to my taste and I would expect everyone else to do the same. The winner is often just the one with a taste more similar to the judge of the day.
df.dima
I'm not against used speakers. Just against "overly used" speakers. Trouble is, it can be hard to tell the difference until it's too late. MuTT is an Ebay ****, so he can weed out the deals. I'm affraid of Ebay. And if I were you, I would hang on to the SEAS woofers. If they are in good shape, I'm sure we can make somthing happen.
....from what i saw on Dima's install thread on DIY his seas are very good condition.
12-02-2007, 09:28 PM
#53
Yankee
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^ I am a moderator of another forum and this is still tame. There is still a vast amount of knowledge here and I learn stuff all the time.. no pain IMO. I shelved my ego a while back, though it may not seem that way to many, many have earned their bragging rights... Yuli comes to mind (this is safe since he will never see this since it is in the SQ thread) but we can all say Yuli is not soft spoken on the boards.
So please continue the chest thumping and the teaching
BTW I am listening to the Balboas album Heavy Surf Advisory as I type... very cool
So please continue the chest thumping and the teaching
BTW I am listening to the Balboas album Heavy Surf Advisory as I type... very cool
12-02-2007, 10:17 PM
#54
12-03-2007, 04:29 AM
#55
The old XBL^2 drivers do...the new ones (Exodus and CSS, primarily) are all coming out with the dual stack approach. We'll see what the new Stereo Integrity Mag looks like.
I think the single slug is certainly more attractive, but if you FEA it out, the difference in flux is negligible, and certainly not audible.
I think the single slug is certainly more attractive, but if you FEA it out, the difference in flux is negligible, and certainly not audible.
Not knocking the drivers, but it's the first thing I noticed.....
Last edited by Haunz; 12-03-2007 at 04:37 AM.
12-03-2007, 09:14 PM
#56
I would have to say the best midbass I have ever heard in
a car are the new JBL 660 gti comps...
they are nothing short of amazing with the musical detail
and accuracy..they go really really low and are rediculusly
tight...
they also just took home the EISA Award for "Best In Car Speaker System"
a car are the new JBL 660 gti comps...
they are nothing short of amazing with the musical detail
and accuracy..they go really really low and are rediculusly
tight...
they also just took home the EISA Award for "Best In Car Speaker System"
12-04-2007, 01:18 PM
#59
^ Is that what those things cost? Wow. Crazy.
The drivers Dukk referred to were drivers that I have (had) in my systems. I bought a pair of the RFA-65 drivers when new and they are a great great driver. Put them in a well sealed and deadened enclosure and they will sound really great. I regretted selling them so much, I re-bought a pair off Ebay. The B&Ws I love and will be reusing them in my next build of which I'm currently....building. My previous system in my truck used them as woofers (doing all bass duties) as it didn't have a sub for a while. I competed with it like this at the USAC Western Finals in Kelowna. I didn't tell anybody there was no sub in the truck until judging was over and I had favorable comments on the bass. It even kicked out 122 dB. Yeah that sounds low, but this is two 7" midbass running IB in a pair of kicks. They work really well, but just don't expect huge volume out of them, especially at lower frequencies. Pro-sound drivers like the JBL's are best of forehead-bonking midbass at loud volumes and above 80 Hz.
I've heard a set of Seas 7" in a T-bird that I was really impressed with. Those boutique driver companies make SO many different styles of the same thing, that one could be good and one could be bad. Word of mouth is best for those kind of brands. I've also heard lots of good things about the Focal K2P or whatever their top-end 6.5" is.
The drivers Dukk referred to were drivers that I have (had) in my systems. I bought a pair of the RFA-65 drivers when new and they are a great great driver. Put them in a well sealed and deadened enclosure and they will sound really great. I regretted selling them so much, I re-bought a pair off Ebay. The B&Ws I love and will be reusing them in my next build of which I'm currently....building. My previous system in my truck used them as woofers (doing all bass duties) as it didn't have a sub for a while. I competed with it like this at the USAC Western Finals in Kelowna. I didn't tell anybody there was no sub in the truck until judging was over and I had favorable comments on the bass. It even kicked out 122 dB. Yeah that sounds low, but this is two 7" midbass running IB in a pair of kicks. They work really well, but just don't expect huge volume out of them, especially at lower frequencies. Pro-sound drivers like the JBL's are best of forehead-bonking midbass at loud volumes and above 80 Hz.
I've heard a set of Seas 7" in a T-bird that I was really impressed with. Those boutique driver companies make SO many different styles of the same thing, that one could be good and one could be bad. Word of mouth is best for those kind of brands. I've also heard lots of good things about the Focal K2P or whatever their top-end 6.5" is.
12-04-2007, 01:40 PM
#60
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Join Date: Dec 2007
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The reason for the split in the top plate is for the shorting ring. It cannot be easily put there without the top plate being made in two pieces. If done right, this doesn't appreciably affect gap flux in the upper gap and the positive effects of the shorting ring can be substantial.
