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Old 11-12-2005, 06:42 AM
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Hello,

What's your opinion/experience? Is the sound between Phaze-Audio and an new Butler Tube Driver differently? Have the topical Butler a warm sound?


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Do you mean the late version of Tube Driver TD-1500 series vs Tube Driver Blue TDB-2150?
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Hello SweetnLow91SC,

I mean the Butler engineered Phaze Audio TD475 and the Butler TDB 475


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O.k.... Here are my findings. Their very first generation of the Tube Driver amps being the best(warmest,sweet,musical,etc). When Phaze Audio took over... the parts used is no longer as good as the original ones. For example: the caps went from Panasonics to Rubycon, tube changed to Sovtek, different circuit board, etc. and the end result was they sound more analytical and lost the warmth of the original ones had.

The current Tube Driver Blue are sweet, open and detail in the top end, but from lower mid and down is a bit lean.. when compared to the previous Tube Driver. But they work great with compression drivers in waveguides/horns applications.
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Hello,

thank's for your answer! Have the Planet Audio HVT 754 more a warm sound and a better control as the Tube Driver BLUE?


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I'm not too familiar with the Planet Audio amplifiers.
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Old 11-14-2005, 10:46 AM
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Hello,

I think, the best one for me is the first generation. How long is the warm up?

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Old 11-14-2005, 07:46 PM
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ya well my kumho tires go 60 miles and hour faster than your b.f. goodrich can go 60 miles an hr!!! please people stop asking what amp sounds better! most respectablewill tell you they all sound the same before clipping,its the sales reps and sales people that started this whole {amp sounding better}thing. look for the power you want and a respectable name. if i hear one more "which amp is better, my lear jet or my sherwood" i think i will be nice to my wife for a day! think people think befor asking dumb questions. phew glad i got that off my chest.. now anyone know what speaker cable sounds the best?
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Originally posted by Pommes3:
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I think, the best one for me is the first generation. How long is the warm up?

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It usually takes about 15-20 mins, depends on the interior temperatures.
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