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Old Dec 22, 2009 | 05:02 PM
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i find SQ to be some what similar to religion. People tend to believe whatever they want to believe.
That is true, these truth vs myth threads tend to go down in flames sooner or later... and pretty much for those reasons. Yuli it is because of your positive influence on all things SQ I am glad that our best buddy Uncle Vlad (Putin) allowed you to become the SPL 'Good Will Ambassador' to SQ.

Now back to the thread... vwdublu feels he is completely correct on his points and frankly he made his points and I made mine, I just don't need to continue the debate with vwdublu as no new points have been made. And the topic was starting to become contentious and I just don't think that is an acceptable direction for this particular topic. I am of the belief it is OK to disagree with people but it isn't OK to get personal and nobody has gotten personal so ... no moderation needed. I like threads where folk disagree as thoughts are exchanged and the opportunity to learn is provided. Nobody is always right. So vwdublu disagrees with me big whoop, he has decent to very good knowledge (as I like to think I do) and he will probably continue to provide useful insight on things. if we all agreed that wouldn't be any fun at all...

This SQ thing is a concept with numerous goals, one is simple enjoyment and how we achieve the goal will be unique to each.
Old Dec 22, 2009 | 05:26 PM
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So far we've determined that T/A isn't neccessary for proper staging, but it is indeed helpful in numerous situations. Also, speaker wire length doesn't need to be equal to achieve proper T/A left to right. I call that progress. On to....

Item #3:

More speakers mean better sound
Old Dec 22, 2009 | 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by RomanticMoments
So far we've determined that T/A isn't neccessary for proper staging,
Correct, assuming "proper" means not the best it can be but close.
Old Dec 23, 2009 | 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by RomanticMoments
So far we've determined that T/A isn't neccessary for proper staging, but it is indeed helpful in numerous situations. Also, speaker wire length doesn't need to be equal to achieve proper T/A left to right. I call that progress. On to....

Item #3:

More speakers mean better sound
I will try to start this by saying emphatically "NOOOO", I will give my reasons; for most people more speakers sound good because it gives them a sense of space shall we say. In fact you're destroying staging most often then not. All you need is speakers right in front of you be that 2-way or 3-way with a sub if you can squeeze it in there somewhere.
Old Dec 23, 2009 | 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by vrdublu
All you need is speakers right in front of you be that 2-way or 3-way with a sub if you can squeeze it in there somewhere.
Do you mean 2-way/3 way coaxials or components? Or just reffering to the fact that speakers in front of you sounds better regardless? If I add 8 speakers in front of me, wouldn't that give me better sound?
Old Dec 23, 2009 | 11:10 AM
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My belief is the more points of origin or focal points (more speakers) the harder to make them come together as one. I would think a properly positioned set with enough power would sound better than 2 sets...
Old Dec 23, 2009 | 11:39 AM
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And the plot thickens.... (in my best deep, movie announcer voice)
Old Dec 23, 2009 | 11:53 AM
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Again define "better".

Also saying something like that without specifing the application...
If you are using a line array, you get great sound and you need a bunch of speakers. Of course it's not without it's compromises but so is everything else.

Strictly car speaking, again depending on the definition of better, more speakers might be better for overall sound for every seat in the car, also negating all the cancelation difficulties encountered in simple 2 speaker setups (including tweets of course).
Old Dec 23, 2009 | 12:25 PM
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I know that Item #3 sounds extremely vague after our last detailed convo on T/A and staging. Again, these are myths that are stated the same way I'm putting them up. Feel free to seperate myth from fact whatever way you please. Are more speakers better? Yes or no? In what situations is that true? Or is it true at all? Imagine someone told you that more speakers sound better. What would you say to that person?
Old Dec 23, 2009 | 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by RomanticMoments
Do you mean 2-way/3 way coaxials or components? Or just reffering to the fact that speakers in front of you sounds better regardless? If I add 8 speakers in front of me, wouldn't that give me better sound?
Coaxial speakers are usually nothing but a cheap alternative, nothing mor nothing less. As someone stated before what is "better" in my mind means does it sound Like it was intended by the producer of the soundtrack? I can almost certainly asure you that most soundtracks are not recorded to sound like the band is behind you. As far as is more speakers better in front of you? If you can sum them up properly with all different crossover points which will be a nightmare in it's self. You know the saying "kiss" use it in everything in life, especially audio.



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