But thank you vrdublu for clearing it up quick

 

RM - I have had more than one guy tell me how he made sure to have equal length speaker wire runs. I tell them: GOOD JOB!

Left to right adjustments can't. If you are delaying, say dash tweeters, so they match up to something like a KP midrange that is physically farther away, then both seats win.

I am a TWO seat proponent. I do not believe in sacrificing the passenger for the driver. Ultimately this means that I cannot completely optimize the DS but I'm ok with it.

 

Ah... I had not considered it that way, only L to R. That makes more sense now!

 

It is possible to set up a two postion T/A but not without sacrifice ultimately to perfect staging, especially in car audio. Don't forget your speakers are 2' away from you and less, it's gonna be hard to make them sound like they are 6' away on both sides of the car at the same time. My current setup allows me to change from a front only listening position to left, right, rear, and all. When you flip through them you quickly realize how T/A works it's magic and how well. The front only position is for both left and right positions but does not sound quite right comparing to the left only.

 

No... Not what Dukk was getting at. It has nothing to do with staging left to right, it has to do with the fact that component speakers are matched pairs, where they generally need to be together so that the sound travels to your ear the way it's supposed to (all at the same time). If the tweeter is forced to be moved farther than the manufacturer intended (typically alot closer to you than the midbass driver), T/A can be used to delay the tweeter so the sound reaches you when it's supposed to. The reason both seats benefit is for the exact same reason. The sound needs to hit the listening position at the same time, regardless of where that listening position is. Overall T/A from left to right can be solved woth proper positioning.

Correct me if I'm wrong here, Dukk

 

I think the problem is correct positioning in a car is next to impossible. I've gone further than most people when it comes to equal path lengths, and they still arant the same. Two seat cars are very hard to do properly. I've only sat in 3 cars that staged well from both seats. And even they couldnt touch the best 1 seat cars. No one needs TA, but if you want good staging in a car, your going to have trouble with out it.

 

My point for the last 3 pages. Don't forget the EQ, no car has perfect acoustics.

 

5 pages later and myth and realities are still being separated?

i think someone needs to turn MythBusters' attention to this thread.

 

Everyone should do like me and buy a McLaren F1. Center seat, problem solved.

 

I think we have almost seperated all the myths out and are left with only facts at this point so Adam and Jamie can stay at home for now, but it was a close call