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Old Dec 16, 2009 | 11:51 PM
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A car audio install is about overcoming the challenges of a car and the audio deficiencies! Proper placement negates time alignment.... Question here.... Would you rather an installer that takes the time to install things properly or just rely on technological (and easy) bandaids like T/A?
I'd go for the T/A for sure.
Old Dec 17, 2009 | 12:02 AM
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Originally Posted by RomanticMoments
A car audio install is about overcoming the challenges of a car and the audio deficiencies! Proper placement negates time alignment.... Question here.... Would you rather an installer that takes the time to install things properly or just rely on technological (and easy) bandaids like T/A?
Do you mean installing L and R speakers at the same distance from your head?
Old Dec 17, 2009 | 05:59 AM
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TA can only do one thing, and that is delay the time a sound is produced by a speaker, it can not move it to the left or the right, it cant enlarge the air volume of the speaker enclosure, it cant vary port size/length, it cant make a Focal sound like a Morel even with EQ. It absolutely can not make up for a poor speaker location and account for glass reflections.

when you decide on your installation you select weather you want speaker reflections or you want to do near-field listening. The windshield and shiny hard vinyl can be your best friend or your worse enemy depending on your install. TA cant fix reflections

Of the typical DSP features (Xover point and slope, EQ, and TA) I would usually put TA on the back of the bus, BUT it is an important piece for some installations and even with seasoned competitors they misalign TA. A properly designed system will make TA pretty much optional. I find its best functions are to force a system to center. The overall sound (pitch) is affected a bit as well with TA.
Old Dec 17, 2009 | 06:15 AM
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For those who are strong proponents of time alignment - are your goals for accurate sound reproduction skewed to only from the drivers seat at the expense of the accuracy from the passengers seat?

Not a bash, just a question.
Old Dec 17, 2009 | 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Blu
For those who are strong proponents of time alignment - are your goals for accurate sound reproduction skewed to only from the drivers seat at the expense of the accuracy from the passengers seat?

Not a bash, just a question.
Who cares about the passenger? Lol. Actually my setup can selected for whatever location you chose as a listening point. To those that say TA and EQ does not solve auto audio issues but is just a bandaid my only reply is duhhh. There is no other purpose for these things other then to help with short comings due to the car environment. I like car audio but I don't like spending 5k and endless months on an install when I can do it in a week with proper sound deading decent components and good processing and TA.
Old Dec 17, 2009 | 07:52 AM
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if you flip polarity on a midbass driver,would this be considered a form of time alignment.just curious.

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Old Dec 17, 2009 | 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by vrdublu
proper sound deading decent components
I agree with that much at least.
Old Dec 17, 2009 | 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by scott2
if you flip polarity on a midbass driver,would this be considered a form of time alignment.just curious.
I call that cancellation...
Old Dec 17, 2009 | 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by scott2
if you flip polarity on a midbass driver,would this be considered a form of time alignment.just curious.
no as it doesn't shift the time (add a time delay) of the signal, it shifts the phase of the driver... which is also what TA does indirectly (it shifts phase mechanically not electrically) which is why there are shifts in EQ with TA (not huge but noticeable).
Old Dec 17, 2009 | 10:27 AM
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Dukk's been awefully quiet ....... Did he bump his head? Is he sick?

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