the 2011 season
09-27-2010, 10:00 AM
#51
So you put no consideration for advertising into your shows? You make no allowance for potential sales because some bystander liked what they saw?
With a little effort one could make really decent plaques for maybe $12-15 a pop. It would take some effort though.
I don't mean to bish at you dude because you DO actually host some shows but man I get tired of the same excuses. Like I have said for the 17 years I have lived in BC: if each indy shop each held just one show a summer we would have trouble scheduling them all.
With a little effort one could make really decent plaques for maybe $12-15 a pop. It would take some effort though.
I don't mean to bish at you dude because you DO actually host some shows but man I get tired of the same excuses. Like I have said for the 17 years I have lived in BC: if each indy shop each held just one show a summer we would have trouble scheduling them all.
I am promoting shows to all of my indy competitors. I've even offered to judge for free. They have a hard time looking beyond the numbers though.
In order to keep the costs under control, it's advisable to look at awards of less than $10.00 each as there are a possible 48 to give out in IASCA.
09-27-2010, 02:59 PM
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$10 is a tough mark to hit dude.. Does IASCA still allow combining classes at local events? IMO there should be no power classes. With the exception of SPL, power makes almost no difference anyway. The only reason there are so many classes (and used to be so many more) is so there are more 'winners' because in the US everyone has the right to be the best at something.. 
Like I say, I don't want to bag on you because I know you are trying your damndest. I want to bag on the lazy bastards that won't hold one single show a year that would not cost them a red cent if they did it right...
Like I say, I don't want to bag on you because I know you are trying your damndest. I want to bag on the lazy bastards that won't hold one single show a year that would not cost them a red cent if they did it right...
09-27-2010, 04:52 PM
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And, any IASCA Competitor member can put on an IASCA event themselves, with any meter for only a $50.00 sanctioning fee. So, if any IASCA competitor member wants to see a show in their area and they're willing to step up, we're happy to help.
IMO there should be no power classes. With the exception of SPL, power makes almost no difference anyway. The only reason there are so many classes (and used to be so many more) is so there are more 'winners' because in the US everyone has the right to be the best at something.. :
:That's basically what every org should be about... and all of us diehard veteran competitors, we're that shop's reps for the day, because they were kind enough to put a show on for us and invest that money... we need to give back to them and show them some respect for their efforts...
09-27-2010, 05:11 PM
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Yes, IASCA does still allow combining classes at events. The whole concept of IASCA has been from day one to help dealers get more exposure and sell more product! If a dealer has to mortgage his shop to put on a show, what's the use??? Makes no sense...
And, any IASCA Competitor member can put on an IASCA event themselves, with any meter for only a $50.00 sanctioning fee. So, if any IASCA competitor member wants to see a show in their area and they're willing to step up, we're happy to help.
Agreed, no power classes, no # of sub classes... somebody gets the short end of the stick every time, whether it's cheater amps or 2 18s against 2 10s (just an example, don't take it literally please)
Dealers have to realize that the events are about them more than they are about the competition itself. It's an advertising tool to help them gain more exposure in their marketplace... like was mentioned in another post, "What about the average person that happens to stop by at the show then walk in to the shop and buy something?" That accounts for a lot, plus the word of mouth advertising they'll get if the person had a good buying experience...
That's basically what every org should be about... and all of us diehard veteran competitors, we're that shop's reps for the day, because they were kind enough to put a show on for us and invest that money... we need to give back to them and show them some respect for their efforts...
And, any IASCA Competitor member can put on an IASCA event themselves, with any meter for only a $50.00 sanctioning fee. So, if any IASCA competitor member wants to see a show in their area and they're willing to step up, we're happy to help.
Agreed, no power classes, no # of sub classes... somebody gets the short end of the stick every time, whether it's cheater amps or 2 18s against 2 10s (just an example, don't take it literally please)
Dealers have to realize that the events are about them more than they are about the competition itself. It's an advertising tool to help them gain more exposure in their marketplace... like was mentioned in another post, "What about the average person that happens to stop by at the show then walk in to the shop and buy something?" That accounts for a lot, plus the word of mouth advertising they'll get if the person had a good buying experience...
That's basically what every org should be about... and all of us diehard veteran competitors, we're that shop's reps for the day, because they were kind enough to put a show on for us and invest that money... we need to give back to them and show them some respect for their efforts...
if we could do a finals like last year were there was iasca , db drag, bassrace etc it allows more exposure for all sanctions its just dishartening when theres only one or 2 iasca shows the entire year in the area theres just no point because its imposible to make finals if theres an even amount of db drag and iasca it allows the die hards to have the chance to qualify for both sanctions final, but i think for in order for this to happen we need maybee 2 or more shops to combine for one large final get a couple audio sponsors to supply some swagg and prizes , this allows for the shop not to break the bank on a show and makes for them to affford to put on an event
09-27-2010, 05:40 PM
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mmmmm coffee.......
oh, sorry, inside voice.....
just because aca isn't doing sanctioned db drag or Iasca shows in 2011, does not mean that there won't be enough local shows. there just needs to be a few more shops to host an event to the costs more evenly throughout the market. with proper planning, good advertising(whether bought, or word-of-mouth), and some effort, these other shops could potentially have a good turn out with little out-of-pocket expense....
oh, sorry, inside voice.....
just because aca isn't doing sanctioned db drag or Iasca shows in 2011, does not mean that there won't be enough local shows. there just needs to be a few more shops to host an event to the costs more evenly throughout the market. with proper planning, good advertising(whether bought, or word-of-mouth), and some effort, these other shops could potentially have a good turn out with little out-of-pocket expense....
09-27-2010, 08:38 PM
#57
mmmmm coffee.......
oh, sorry, inside voice.....
just because aca isn't doing sanctioned db drag or Iasca shows in 2011, does not mean that there won't be enough local shows. there just needs to be a few more shops to host an event to the costs more evenly throughout the market. with proper planning, good advertising(whether bought, or word-of-mouth), and some effort, these other shops could potentially have a good turn out with little out-of-pocket expense....
oh, sorry, inside voice.....
just because aca isn't doing sanctioned db drag or Iasca shows in 2011, does not mean that there won't be enough local shows. there just needs to be a few more shops to host an event to the costs more evenly throughout the market. with proper planning, good advertising(whether bought, or word-of-mouth), and some effort, these other shops could potentially have a good turn out with little out-of-pocket expense....
09-28-2010, 12:39 PM
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I just love events(competitor at heart) and I always make a point to buy as much stuff from dealers who hold shows and send all my friends to that dealer too. Moe if you got someone to do IASCA shows in SK I will always have room for your guy at my events, and provide the shelter in all cases. I would love to see some Bassboxing and IDBL events. I can't compete in dB Drag but you would have my vehicle in the Bassboxing lanes. Same goes for USACI etc....
09-28-2010, 01:34 PM
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I just love events(competitor at heart) and I always make a point to buy as much stuff from dealers who hold shows and send all my friends to that dealer too. Moe if you got someone to do IASCA shows in SK I will always have room for your guy at my events, and provide the shelter in all cases. I would love to see some Bassboxing and IDBL events. I can't compete in dB Drag but you would have my vehicle in the Bassboxing lanes. Same goes for USACI etc....
If there are any shops who have interest in hosting shows, please conatct me; having been a Canadian shop owner myself, I understand much of the difficulties dealers face and I would be more than happy to help in any way I can.
Like I mentioned in my earlier post... it's all about helping dealers gain more exposure in their market areas and to build their customer base. If dealers are to succeed, they need to think outside the traditional business practices and explore new possibilities.
I am always available for any dealer or competitor... if anyone has any questions, please feel free to email me anytime.
Thanks,
Moe
09-28-2010, 03:24 PM
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Dealers have to realize that the events are about them more than they are about the competition itself. It's an advertising tool to help them gain more exposure in their marketplace... like was mentioned in another post, "What about the average person that happens to stop by at the show then walk in to the shop and buy something?" That accounts for a lot, plus the word of mouth advertising they'll get if the person had a good buying experience...
I've been saying the same thing for a loooooong time...
