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Old Feb 6, 2004 | 08:42 PM
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Originally posted by drjjg:
Underpowering can NOT, will NOT EVER blow a sub. Period. Clipping will not either.
Riggghhhtttt.............and a Pink pixie just flew out of my bum............oh, there is another one !!!!

Quick !!! FLY !!!!

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Old Feb 6, 2004 | 08:58 PM
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Loan you my fly swatter if your interested Tim, you can use it to smack upside the head those that need it, might take care of that nasty pixie problem as well.
Old Feb 6, 2004 | 11:09 PM
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Pixies are my friends !!!

I have alot of them coming out of my bum......everytime I read something that is so OUT there........... [img]smile.gif[/img]
Old Feb 7, 2004 | 07:31 AM
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Originally posted by Tim Baillie:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by drjjg:
Underpowering can NOT, will NOT EVER blow a sub. Period. Clipping will not either.
Riggghhhtttt.............and a Pink pixie just flew out of my bum............oh, there is another one !!!!

Quick !!! FLY !!!!

[img]graemlins/freak.gif[/img]
</font>[/QUOTE]With all due respect, prove him wrong.
Pixies ain't proof.
Old Feb 7, 2004 | 08:15 AM
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3 subs in a $hit install will be louder than 1 in a good install
Old Feb 7, 2004 | 10:25 AM
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Originally posted by KillerGrand:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Tim Baillie:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by drjjg:
Underpowering can NOT, will NOT EVER blow a sub. Period. Clipping will not either.
Riggghhhtttt.............and a Pink pixie just flew out of my bum............oh, there is another one !!!!

Quick !!! FLY !!!!

[img]graemlins/freak.gif[/img]
</font>[/QUOTE]With all due respect, prove him wrong.
Pixies ain't proof.
</font>[/QUOTE]How many times do you have to explain it before people can understand? I have, Tim has, and some others have but people just dont get it!

Why bother anymore, case closed!!

"Subs dont blow from clipping, they blow because they are overpowered" Feel Better?

I had better let my MTX 2300 know that it had no business powering those 5" components for those 3 years, cause it would have blown" Oh wait they didnt blow. Thats strange? [img]graemlins/freak.gif[/img]
Old Feb 7, 2004 | 10:38 AM
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Originally posted by slow/n\low:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by KillerGrand:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Tim Baillie:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by drjjg:
Underpowering can NOT, will NOT EVER blow a sub. Period. Clipping will not either.
Riggghhhtttt.............and a Pink pixie just flew out of my bum............oh, there is another one !!!!

Quick !!! FLY !!!!


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</font>[/QUOTE]With all due respect, prove him wrong.
Pixies ain't proof.
</font>[/QUOTE]How many times do you have to explain it before people can understand? I have, Tim has, and some others have but people just dont get it!

Why bother anymore, case closed!!

"Subs dont blow from clipping, they blow because they are overpowered" Feel Better?

I had better let my MTX 2300 know that it had no business powering those 5" components for those 3 years, cause it would have blown" Oh wait they didnt blow. Thats strange? [img]graemlins/freak.gif[/img]
</font>[/QUOTE]Hey I understand the principle, I was the one who posted this topic originally. What Tim is saying is not at all what you are saying. Fell better?
Old Feb 7, 2004 | 11:08 AM
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Originally posted by Tim Baillie:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Sassmaster:
I've found that the whole "Under powering speakers blows them" is a common sales gimmick for future shop. they use it to try to sell you bigger amplifiers, home recievers etc. they also really push high current stuff (and as everyone should know, more current = more heat in the coil, and more loss the longer your wire is)
Dude......are you serious ?????

Anyone that thinks that they can't blow a speaker underpowering it has no idea on how clipping works. When you turn up the volume you are sending voltage (music) to your speakers. If you turn it past the point where the amp can't produce power that amp will keep trying to make power and it will continue to try and go louder, there for causing the signal to clip. Once you start sending a clipped signal to speakers, it's only a matter of time till it will cook the speaker. The more power you run to the speaker the cleaner power you have which means your chances of running a clipped signal decreases. The more voltage your deck has on it's preouts the lower you can have the gain on the amp therefore matching up the gain path of your system which also helps to maintain a clipping free system.

If you think that this is a selling technique by FS or any other company then you are seriously uneducated and you need to find some education and probably shouldn't be buying electronics cause you don't understand how it works.

Real world analogy........you have a car with 6 speeds on the tranny. Can you do 120 km in first gear ? YEP, what is going to happen to the tranny ? It will smell really bad and die.......If you shift into higher gears will the tranny run better ? Yep, less chance of cooking the tranny......

Tranny = speakers
Shifting = Amp

Think about it........
</font>[/QUOTE]That is what Tim is saying!! his quote!


What I said is the same concept but worded differant
Old Feb 7, 2004 | 11:29 AM
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Myth; That we agree on anything at all, even when we agree we wont for long on a long enough thread.
Old Feb 7, 2004 | 04:07 PM
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I think that we should head on over to the non-believers car, pin the gains and bass boosts and conduct ourselves a little test. Let's send those amps into clipping and see how long your drivers stay functioning. As a store owner I'm only too glad to prove this to a customer with my own equipment in the store but when I ask the customer to let us do this experiment on their drivers, what do you think say? Let me put some words in your mouth, "NO WAY".
Wonder what happens to a car engine if you don't shift the tranny, or do like running it above red line all the time as well. Guess that running your engine above red line is not bad for it either.



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