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Let's Seperate Myth From Fact....

Old Dec 19, 2009 | 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by kevmurray
Everyone should do like me and buy a McLaren F1. Center seat, problem solved.
lol, WOW Kev, you own one of 106 F1's built at a cost of 1.3 million U.S.... I can see how it would have its benefits at SQ shows.
Old Dec 19, 2009 | 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by vrdublu
My current setup allows me to change from a front only listening position to left, right, rear, and all. When you flip through them you quickly realize how T/A works it's magic and how well. The front only position is for both left and right positions but does not sound quite right comparing to the left only.
Do you have real T/A where you can individually adjust the delay on each speaker indepedent of the others?

Or do you have a preset DSP with LEFT, FRONT, ALL settings? If this is what you have, we're not talking about the same thing.
Old Dec 19, 2009 | 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by fozzz
I think the problem is correct positioning in a car is next to impossible. I've gone further than most people when it comes to equal path lengths, and they still arant the same. Two seat cars are very hard to do properly. I've only sat in 3 cars that staged well from both seats. And even they couldnt touch the best 1 seat cars. No one needs TA, but if you want good staging in a car, your going to have trouble with out it.
I agree with you. Ultimately a 2seat car is going to be near impossible to get the same results as a 1seat car. For everyday, when a buddy hops in the passenger seat for a listen, I'll take the 2 seat car.

I'd like to offer as well that, for our 15000+ members, that maybe two dozen or less can really understand, appreciate, and expect the level of performance that a world level car delivers.
Old Dec 19, 2009 | 01:02 PM
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^^^^ agree 100%.
Old Dec 19, 2009 | 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Dukk
Do you have real T/A where you can individually adjust the delay on each speaker indepedent of the others?

Or do you have a preset DSP with LEFT, FRONT, ALL settings? If this is what you have, we're not talking about the same thing.
Yes you can adjust each speaker individually and you can listen to each individual zone. Once you setup your mic in your drivers seat you're basically calibrating for every position at the same time, it's simple math. I don't know what you mean by DSP, it's all DSP.

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Old Dec 19, 2009 | 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by kevmurray
Everyone should do like me and buy a McLaren F1. Center seat, problem solved.
^^^ The only dude ever to park his Mclaren in the same garage as a 99 nissan maxima lol.
Old Dec 19, 2009 | 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by vrdublu
Yes you can adjust each speaker individually and you can listen to each individual zone. Once you setup your mic in your drivers seat you're basically calibrating for every position at the same time, it's simple math. I don't know what you mean by DSP, it's all DSP.
OK I give! I go from following what you are talking about to not understanding and it is frustrating. What car audio device are you using? what home audio device are you using?
it is just your not making sense half the time and your giving half answers, you have good understanding then you don't... and I get distracted easily by shiny things too
Old Dec 19, 2009 | 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnVroom
OK I give! I go from following what you are talking about to not understanding and it is frustrating. What car audio device are you using? what home audio device are you using?
it is just your not making sense half the time and your giving half answers, you have good understanding then you don't... and I get distracted easily by shiny things too
Really what part exactly can't you understand?
Old Dec 19, 2009 | 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by fozzz
I think the problem is correct positioning in a car is next to impossible. I've gone further than most people when it comes to equal path lengths, and they still arant the same. Two seat cars are very hard to do properly. I've only sat in 3 cars that staged well from both seats. And even they couldnt touch the best 1 seat cars. No one needs TA, but if you want good staging in a car, your going to have trouble with out it.
So when a competitor like Mark Eldridge competes in both one seat and two seat classes with the same vehicle and wins you would get pretty upset?
Old Dec 19, 2009 | 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Gen1_Rx7
^^^ The only dude ever to park his Mclaren in the same garage as a 99 nissan maxima lol.
LOL, actually the Maxima I gave to my girlfriend shortly after I bought the Altima. The MacLaren is parked in the garage beside my '72 Lark. Joe Dirt meets James Bond.

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