Interesting..
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Originally posted by Specop_007:
Regardless, I'll betchya a defective motor its gonna be a LONG day in the RE office today!
Regardless, I'll betchya a defective motor its gonna be a LONG day in the RE office today!
This thread has really grown out of proportion, here and on half a dozen other forums. I'm curious has ANYONE else checked their HC or possibly SE motors?
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Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 24
Originally posted by dB Don:
Let me first say that Beyond didn't use the same motor's other people used. I got my own just for me me me. As for my relationship with Destijl, it was awesome, the subs they made were good and people I sold them to sometimes abused them like rented mules with less than 3% defects or returns. You wanna know why? I educated my customers on the proper use and applications for the woofers they bought.
Out of the hundreds of x-ones I maybe had to recone like 25 total and most were out of warranty burned coils from distortion tests. I made my Inhumans and had less than 3 warranty items per year so those were no concern. Actually I broke more than anyone. Damn, I must have sold defective equipment, but I never even inspected it, bahhh
Now when I decided to shut down Beyond I really didn't shut it down. Because Beyond Audio is me and I am still here. I changed product only and what I put my energy into.
I know the crew at Destijl puts their all into their stuff so I agreed to pick RE up for Canada.
I try to make ends meet while supporting the industries finest people, YOU the customer and friend.
This in no way bothers me as a new distributor and I have not seen one shred of performance complaint that I should even care about. Once I see the performance complaints then its my problem.
Anyway, its late and the pizza guy is here with my pizza I ordered, I better go pay or he might eat it.
Let me first say that Beyond didn't use the same motor's other people used. I got my own just for me me me. As for my relationship with Destijl, it was awesome, the subs they made were good and people I sold them to sometimes abused them like rented mules with less than 3% defects or returns. You wanna know why? I educated my customers on the proper use and applications for the woofers they bought.
Out of the hundreds of x-ones I maybe had to recone like 25 total and most were out of warranty burned coils from distortion tests. I made my Inhumans and had less than 3 warranty items per year so those were no concern. Actually I broke more than anyone. Damn, I must have sold defective equipment, but I never even inspected it, bahhh
Now when I decided to shut down Beyond I really didn't shut it down. Because Beyond Audio is me and I am still here. I changed product only and what I put my energy into.
I know the crew at Destijl puts their all into their stuff so I agreed to pick RE up for Canada.
I try to make ends meet while supporting the industries finest people, YOU the customer and friend.
This in no way bothers me as a new distributor and I have not seen one shred of performance complaint that I should even care about. Once I see the performance complaints then its my problem.
Anyway, its late and the pizza guy is here with my pizza I ordered, I better go pay or he might eat it.
That shows great customer service.
If you have any concerns send them to don so he can delete them and pretend they never happened.
Yankee
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 10
On a complete side note, could someone give me a bone on the Ed Re issue?? I dont follow other manufacturers all that closely, I'm an Adire by heart. 
But I know my fugly lookin Brahma motor is pure Adire XBL^2 the whole way through.
But I know my fugly lookin Brahma motor is pure Adire XBL^2 the whole way through.
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Posts: 24
Originally posted by Mr Singh:
...I will apologies on behalf of RE for any upset this causes to existing customers.
...I will apologies on behalf of RE for any upset this causes to existing customers.
Yankee
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 44
Originally posted by Specop_007:
On a complete side note, could someone give me a bone on the Ed Re issue??
On a complete side note, could someone give me a bone on the Ed Re issue??
Like Onyx we found ourselves rejecting products for various reasons and quite a few being rejected by customers for various reasons as well. Like Onyx eD takes our quality control very seriously. Even though our prices are very low we don't think people should get a sub par product. But like Onyx, they should get the best. These days we do a lot of testing and actually have someone who does nothing BUT test speakers all day, everyday in the office to insure there are no speakers with issues shipped.
eD cut ties with said company becuase we felt it to be 100% in our best interest for our future. I feel our products are of higher caliber now than they've ever been, more reliable than they've ever been. And I feel confident it was without a doubt the right descision to make.
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All i have to say is that RE did make a mistake. Needless to say, everyhing i have heard and seen about their product has checked out great!
Now so far nobody has mentioned anything about the MT's! What's going to be the situation on these?? I have the 18's on back order right now!! What is going to be the story on these???
They don't even come with a warranty?? I'm a little worried now!!!!
livin' loud
Now so far nobody has mentioned anything about the MT's! What's going to be the situation on these?? I have the 18's on back order right now!! What is going to be the story on these???
They don't even come with a warranty?? I'm a little worried now!!!!
livin' loud
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Joined: Sep 2003
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Originally posted by dredfunn:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by dB Don:
Let me first say that Beyond didn't use the same motor's other people used. I got my own just for me me me. As for my relationship with Destijl, it was awesome, the subs they made were good and people I sold them to sometimes abused them like rented mules with less than 3% defects or returns. You wanna know why? I educated my customers on the proper use and applications for the woofers they bought.
Out of the hundreds of x-ones I maybe had to recone like 25 total and most were out of warranty burned coils from distortion tests. I made my Inhumans and had less than 3 warranty items per year so those were no concern. Actually I broke more than anyone. Damn, I must have sold defective equipment, but I never even inspected it, bahhh
Now when I decided to shut down Beyond I really didn't shut it down. Because Beyond Audio is me and I am still here. I changed product only and what I put my energy into.
I know the crew at Destijl puts their all into their stuff so I agreed to pick RE up for Canada.
I try to make ends meet while supporting the industries finest people, YOU the customer and friend.
This in no way bothers me as a new distributor and I have not seen one shred of performance complaint that I should even care about. Once I see the performance complaints then its my problem.
Anyway, its late and the pizza guy is here with my pizza I ordered, I better go pay or he might eat it.
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by dB Don:
Let me first say that Beyond didn't use the same motor's other people used. I got my own just for me me me. As for my relationship with Destijl, it was awesome, the subs they made were good and people I sold them to sometimes abused them like rented mules with less than 3% defects or returns. You wanna know why? I educated my customers on the proper use and applications for the woofers they bought.
Out of the hundreds of x-ones I maybe had to recone like 25 total and most were out of warranty burned coils from distortion tests. I made my Inhumans and had less than 3 warranty items per year so those were no concern. Actually I broke more than anyone. Damn, I must have sold defective equipment, but I never even inspected it, bahhh
Now when I decided to shut down Beyond I really didn't shut it down. Because Beyond Audio is me and I am still here. I changed product only and what I put my energy into.
I know the crew at Destijl puts their all into their stuff so I agreed to pick RE up for Canada.
I try to make ends meet while supporting the industries finest people, YOU the customer and friend.
This in no way bothers me as a new distributor and I have not seen one shred of performance complaint that I should even care about. Once I see the performance complaints then its my problem.
Anyway, its late and the pizza guy is here with my pizza I ordered, I better go pay or he might eat it.
That shows great customer service.
If you have any concerns send them to don so he can delete them and pretend they never happened. </font>[/QUOTE]good pointhe is also not answering my question in another forum on the benfits of a copper chasis on the tru c7
whats dbdon have to hide?
Yankee
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 1
Sheesh - I just HAD to register here also to add my $.02
Has anyone considered this:
Perhaps RE and Onxy DO NOT use the same parameters when it comes to the motors, etc.?
An example: Maybe the vent hole in the magnet of Onyx drivers is supposed to be 7mm wide, and RE used vents 8mm wide.
Then, Onyx gets a batch of magnets with 8mm vent holes, decides that's no good for them. RE buys 'em - not because "quality control" is not as tight there, but because they are the CORRECT 8mm size for RE drivers.
Only an example
However, RE oughtta explain, or at the very least give the folks at Onyx the go-ahead to state what the defect is.
Someone needs to fess up, and say what exactly was wrong with the parts, and why they are suitable for RE and not Onyx.
Just MHO.
~HH
Has anyone considered this:
Perhaps RE and Onxy DO NOT use the same parameters when it comes to the motors, etc.?
An example: Maybe the vent hole in the magnet of Onyx drivers is supposed to be 7mm wide, and RE used vents 8mm wide.
Then, Onyx gets a batch of magnets with 8mm vent holes, decides that's no good for them. RE buys 'em - not because "quality control" is not as tight there, but because they are the CORRECT 8mm size for RE drivers.
Only an example
However, RE oughtta explain, or at the very least give the folks at Onyx the go-ahead to state what the defect is.
Someone needs to fess up, and say what exactly was wrong with the parts, and why they are suitable for RE and not Onyx.
Just MHO.
~HH
